Is there any major differences between cyp and enan?

**diskin8** · 01-06-2012, 10:18 AM

Title pretty much says it. I heard cyp has a little more water retention but apart from that is there any differences between test cyp and enan?

Thanks

**gixxerboy1** · 01-06-2012, 10:42 AM

just a couple days on the half life and enanthate is typ dosed higher

**Maddawg** · 01-06-2012, 11:25 AM

You're right about the water retention, I bloat a lot more on cyp, especially my face.

**diskin8** · 01-06-2012, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Maddawg

You're right about the water retention, I bloat a lot more on cyp, especially my face.

Yeah I bloat a shit load, but your going to get that anyway with test I'd assume. I'm not too sure if it was the dbol or not though.

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

just a couple days on the half life and enanthate is typ dosed higher

Ah right thank you, yeah I remember reading that as well I think. cyp has the longer half life?

**gixxerboy1** · 01-06-2012, 12:28 PM

yes cyp is a little longer

**chi** · 01-06-2012, 12:31 PM

i bloat like crazy from ethanate so I can't image cyp. I am on blend right now on a maintenance dosage of cyp eth at 300mg's a week and I am fine

**BigBench550** · 01-06-2012, 12:35 PM

Nope pretty much identical

**Gym_** · 01-07-2012, 07:37 AM

Was reading about this exact thing early tonight because one was on sale somewere... so i looked up the info on it and this it what is says on the difference between E and C

Testosterone Cypionate .

American athletes have a long and fond relationship with Testosterone Cypionate . While Testosterone Enanthate is manufactured widely throughout the world, Cypionate seems to be almost exclusively an American item. It is therefore not surprising that American athletes particularly favor this testosterone. But many claim this is not just a matter of simple pride, often swearing Cypionate to be a superior product, providing a bit more of a "kick" than testosterone enanthate . At the same time it is said to produce a slightly higher level of water retention, but not enough for it to be easily discerned. Of course when we look at the situation objectively, we see these two steroids are really interchangeable, and cypionate is not at all superior. Both are long acting oil-based injectables, which will keep testosterone levels sufficiently elevated for approximately two weeks. Enanthate may be slightly better in terms of testosterone release, as this ester is one carbon atom lighter than cypionate (remember the ester is calculated in the steroids total milligram weight). The difference is so insignificant however that no one can rightly claim it to be noticeable (we are maybe talking a few milligrams per shot). Regardless, cypionate came to be the most popular testosterone ester on the U.S. black market for a very long time.

As with all testosterone injectables, one can expect a considerable gain in muscle mass and strength during a cycle. Since testosterone readliy converts to estrogen, the mass gained from this drug is likely to be accompanied by quite a bit of water retention. The resulting loss of definition of course makes cypionate a very poor choice for dieting or cutting phases. The excess level of estrogen brought about by this drug can also cause one to develop gynecomastia rather quickly. Should one notice an uncomfortable soreness, swelling or lump under the nipple, an ancillary drug like Nolvadex should be added immediately. This will minimize the effect of estrogen greatly, making the steroid much more tolerable to use. Those who have a known sensitivity to estrogen may find it more beneficial to use ancillary drugs like Nolvadex from the onset of the cycle, in order to prevent estrogen related side effects before they become apparent.

Since testosterone is the primary male androgen, we should also expect to see pronounced androgenic side effects with this drug. Much intensity is related to the rate in which the body converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Although active in the body for much longer time, cypionate is injected on a weekly or bi-weekly basis in order to maintain stable blood levels. At a dosage of 250mg to 800mg per week we should certainly see dramatic results. It is interesting to note that while a large number of other steroidal compounds have been made available since testosterone injectables, they are still considered to be the dominant bulking agents among bodybuilders. There is little argument that these are among the most powerful mass drugs. When taking dosages above 800-1000mg per week there is little doubt that water retention will come to be the primary gain, far outweighing the new mass accumulation. The practice of "megadosing" is therefore inefficient.

**Gym_** · 01-07-2012, 07:39 AM

Hope that helps ya out mate...

Cheers Gym_

**Times Roman** · 01-07-2012, 08:08 AM

i do both. i think you mean a couple more days on the "active life" not "half life"

results i get are the same for either

**Far from massive** · 01-07-2012, 04:41 PM

Seen very little difference between the two as far as the effects go.

As to differences, as Gixxer said Enan can be dosed higher without crashing. So if you are packing big doses and syringe space is at a premium Enan is the way to go. However another noteworthy thing is that Cyp will keep longer, both as a powder and as an oil based steroid so if you are purchasing for home TRT, Cyp is the way to go.

FFM

**Bonaparte** · 01-07-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

Seen very little difference between the two as far as the effects go.

As to differences, as Gixxer said Enan can be dosed higher without crashing. So if you are packing big doses and syringe space is at a premium Enan is the way to go. However another noteworthy thing is that Cyp will keep longer, both as a powder and as an oil based steroid so if you are purchasing for home TRT, Cyp is the way to go.

FFM

This.
And anyone who thinks one bloats them more than the other is being deceived by some other factor. There is no way that a difference of one carbon on the ester chain would make any difference in water retention, when it only changes the half-life by less than a day.