Strongest prhormone?

**VenicePump** · 01-08-2012, 01:24 PM

What are some strong pro hormones (that work)? Or do you guys think this stuff is junk. Because I have cycled Epistane and Trenazone. I don't seem to get shit from it. Don't take me wrong I feel super aggressive and have a high drive. But as for actual muscle growth I don't seem to be getting anything noticeable.

As for my nutrition yes it is intact. I consumer nothing, but clean calories and a lot especially when I am on this stuff. I am starting to wonder if the prohormones are a joke.

**alexISthrowed** · 01-08-2012, 01:29 PM

Epistane is a dhea which isn't really gonna do too much, not sure about the other one. What are your stats? Age?

**Bonaparte** · 01-08-2012, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by alexISthrowed

Epistane is a dhea which isn't really gonna do too much, not sure about the other one. What are your stats? Age?

Not at all. Methylepitiostanol is an active steroid , more potent than Var and Winstrol .
But to answer the OP's question: methyldrostanolone (superdrol) is the most potent thing legally available. But it is obviously very harsh, especially on the liver.

**alexISthrowed** · 01-08-2012, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Not at all. Methylepitiostanol is an active steroid , more potent than Var and Winstrol .
But to answer the OP's question: methyldrostanolone (superdrol) is the most potent thing legally available. But it is obviously very harsh, especially on the liver.

Didn't know that, I don't research pro horomones though.

**PecBounce** · 01-08-2012, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Not at all. Methylepitiostanol is an active steroid , more potent than Var and Winstrol .
But to answer the OP's question: methyldrostanolone (superdrol) is the most potent thing legally available. But it is obviously very harsh, especially on the liver.

Not hijack the thread, but while running superdrol do people typically run a pct? Are the sides similar to say a test cycle? Hairloss, acne, gyno?

**guitario** · 01-08-2012, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Not at all. Methylepitiostanol is an active steroid , more potent than Var and Winstrol .
But to answer the OP's question: methyldrostanolone (superdrol) is the most potent thing legally available. But it is obviously very harsh, especially on the liver.

You really think Epistane is more potent than Anavar and Winstrol? In terms of what, muscle building or sides? I didn't realise this.

**Bonaparte** · 01-08-2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by guitario

You really think Epistane is more potent than Anavar and Winstrol? In terms of what, muscle building or sides? I didn't realise this.

As far as 30-40 mg providing solid results vs 50-100 for Var or Winstrol .
But granted, a higher dose of the last 2 should yield better results than any dose of Epi.

**guitario** · 01-09-2012, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

As far as 30-40 mg providing solid results vs 50-100 for Var or Winstrol .
But granted, a higher dose of the last 2 should yield better results than any dose of Epi.

I believe what you say, but do you know this first hand or just through what you have found out from others? I'm assuming then that Epi is a good dry steroid that would be best served in a cutting cycle, maybe to preserve muscle rather than to gain anything..

**BigGuy90** · 01-08-2012, 01:52 PM

Tri-methyl x is a potent pro hormone for mass..but with 3 methylated compounds I understand why most people don't want to risk their liver working over time.

**songdog** · 01-08-2012, 03:19 PM

M1T never did it but Ive read it was potent.

**alexISthrowed** · 01-08-2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by songdog

M1T never did it but Ive read it was potent.

It has been banned for a long time. You can still get it, but i'm sure the op is looking for something legal.

**Testosterone.** · 01-08-2012, 03:21 PM

Just add deadlifts to your workout lol...

**alexISthrowed** · 01-08-2012, 03:23 PM

To me a pro hormone cycle is the equivalent of a dbol only cycle, there are also not many options anymore.

**V-ROID** · 01-08-2012, 03:52 PM

M-drol maybe?

**Bonaparte** · 01-08-2012, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by MOTOPHILE

M-drol maybe?

I already mentioned Mdrol (superdrol) as being the most potent.
And yes, the sides are worse than with a test cycle, which is why I don't recommend it.

**PecBounce** · 01-08-2012, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

I already mentioned Mdrol (superdrol) as being the most potent.
And yes, the sides are worse than with a test cycle, which is why I don't recommend it.

yikes! sounds pretty dumb then to use it

**Bonaparte** · 01-08-2012, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by PecBounce

yikes! sounds pretty dumb then to use it

Agreed. The only real advantage is that it is readily accessible and legal.

**V-ROID** · 01-08-2012, 05:06 PM

Readily accessible is right! I have had M-Drol sent to me TWICE by mistake when ordering other products (I sent it back). Seems they are having a hard time giving that stuff away.

**V-ROID** · 01-08-2012, 04:11 PM

Definitely liver support before during and after. Sides vary. And yes PCT.

**Ashop** · 01-08-2012, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by VenicePump

What are some strong pro hormones (that work)? Or do you guys think this stuff is junk. Because I have cycled Epistane and Trenazone. I don't seem to get shit from it. Don't take me wrong I feel super aggressive and have a high drive. But as for actual muscle growth I don't seem to be getting anything noticeable.

As for my nutrition yes it is intact. I consumer nothing, but clean calories and a lot especially when I am on this stuff. I am starting to wonder if the prohormones are a joke.

I thought EPI was mild at best. I say the best ones out there was M1T and Superdrol. These really arent prohormones they were designer oral AAS.

**Times Roman** · 01-09-2012, 06:24 AM

A looong time ago I was taking Andro. Fairly decent results. I don't think it is available anylonger today though?

**auswest** · 01-09-2012, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

A looong time ago I was taking Andro. Fairly decent results. I don't think it is available anylonger today though?

Yes just been released couple months back... Not sure by who, I get newsletters from orbit nutrition but don't pay too much attention

**Times Roman** · 01-09-2012, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by auswest

Yes just been released couple months back... Not sure by who, I get newsletters from orbit nutrition but don't pay too much attention

it was discontinued because it was outlawed. has it been taken off the list?

**Bonaparte** · 01-09-2012, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by guitario

I believe what you say, but do you know this first hand or just through what you have found out from others? I'm assuming then that Epi is a good dry steroid that would be best served in a cutting cycle, maybe to preserve muscle rather than to gain anything..

I don't have first-hand experience with any OTC steroids . This is mostly from forum reading and comparing logs and such.

Originally Posted by auswest

Yes just been released couple months back... Not sure by who, I get newsletters from orbit nutrition but don't pay too much attention

No, that "andro" is a DHEA precursor to 4-AD. The original Andro was straight 4-AD, which converted to test.
The DHEA ones are much weaker.

**auswest** · 01-09-2012, 06:26 AM

Beastdrol is the real deal as far as legit ph,s 30mg/day 4 weeks

**Honkey_Kong** · 01-09-2012, 11:43 PM

I've used Epi before. You're not going to notice any major gains from it. Your muscles will become more solid. That's about it. Mdrol you'll grow like a weed on, but the sides are really harsh.