test e results after 3 pins??

[felk87]

So weight my self today, i feel stronger, feel the test deff n i believe ive experienced the pumps...when i started i weight 181lbs now im 188.4 lbs...i thought this stuff took 4-5 weeks. I m on 250mg/2xweek.

[BBrian]

Are you taking any AI's or SERM's? Are you familiar with water retention? Yes, enanthate is a very slow acting ester which takes 10-14 days to peak. After a week and a half you still a considerably low amount of testosterone in your blood. In three weeks you'll see what I mean

[alexISthrowed]

First cycle? I'm guessing a little placebo. Like brian said you will not have to ask when it kicks in, you will know.

[felk87]

Maybe im just superman and its kicking in faster than others....i read so much about this issh and so much contradiction about it some say 3-4 weeks others 6-7weeks to feel the isshh...so my question is if this aa takes that long to kick in what is the point of eating 3500-4000 clean cals before then, and doing regiment like you would with short ester aas...just curious...and i hope bbrian is right by the time they kick in i freaking blow up hulk style.

[songdog]

I know wat your talking about.I gave my brother inlaw his 1st shot of Deca .The next day he swore he could feel it.NOT

[felk87]

I know wat your talking about.I gave my brother inlaw his 1st shot of Deca.The next day he swore he could feel it.NOT

Placebo 1 me 0

[songdog]

ok

[BBrian]

Well, you didn't answer the question about water retention. Are you taking anything to combat estrogen? If not you have gained lbs in water weight, and you will really want to get this under control soon.

[Ashop]

First cycle? I'm guessing a little placebo. Like brian said you will not have to ask when it kicks in, you will know.

I'm sure there is some excitement there but if your testosterone levels were naturally low already you could be feeling it quicker.

[felk87]

Well, you didn't answer the question about water retention. Are you taking anything to combat estrogen? If not you have gained lbs in water weight, and you will really want to get this under control soon.

My dilema is all i have is letro in hand but orders liquidex thay should be here friday or sat..i could start the letro at .5 mg e3d n when i get the dex substitude.25 eod eith it and stop the letro any suggestion.

[felk87]

Damn droid spelling

[BBrian]

That would work fine felk, I'd just want to get something in me at this point. It doesn't have to be a lot.

[felk87]

That would work fine felk, I'd just want to get something in me at this point. It doesn't have to be a lot.

Alright i have 2.5 mg pills and a pill cutter so ill split them in four and i think by all the powder lost it should be .5mg and take that untill dex comes in like i said letro e3d and dex eod at. 25mg

[gixxerboy1]

Maybe im just superman and its kicking in faster than others....i read so much about this issh and so much contradiction about it some say 3-4 weeks others 6-7weeks to feel the isshh...so my question is if this aa takes that long to kick in what is the point of eating 3500-4000 clean cals before then, and doing regiment like you would with short ester aas...just curious...and i hope bbrian is right by the time they kick in i freaking blow up hulk style.

because you should always being for your goals. on cycle or not. That is the difference with the people who are successful and not. They dont just eat and train right on cycle.

[felk87]

because you should always being for your goals. on cycle or not. That is the difference with the people who are successful and not. They dont just eat and train right on cycle.

I agree with you 100%, the thing im saying i dont always eat clean cals, and train superheavy, i train hard and eat right, but i am not trying to compete by any means, this cycle i am doing is to get to the max i can get , which is why i am training and eating like i was in cycle. Im not sure but ive read that even pro bbs dont train the same and eat the same while they are off and on. By me doing the extra steps, training heavier than ever before and eating 8-9 meals a day should pretty much say how dedicated i am.

[gixxerboy1]

I agree with you 100%, the thing im saying i dont always eat clean cals, and train superheavy, i train hard and eat right, but i am not trying to compete by any means, this cycle i am doing is to get to the max i can get , which is why i am training and eating like i was in cycle. Im not sure but ive read that even pro bbs dont train the same and eat the same while they are off and on. By me doing the extra steps, training heavier than ever before and eating 8-9 meals a day should pretty much say how dedicated i am.

i understand what you are saying and i agree to a point. But i mean i train for what my goal is. So if im cutting i set my diet. My diet wont change because i go on cycle. It will change to get me to the goals

[felk87]

O yeah and i just wondered why people preferred long esters on a first cycle?

[gixxerboy1]

cause they require less injections so its typically easier for a newb

[felk87]

cause they require less injections so its typically easier for a newb

Makes sense

[felk87]

question, kinda on topic, but im reading that letro takes 60 days to fully build up in your system, so should i continue my nolva 10mg ed while taking the letro until i get the dex.

[gixxerboy1]

question, kinda on topic, but im reading that letro takes 60 days to fully build up in your system, so should i continue my nolva 10mg ed while taking the letro until i get the dex.

i dont understand your question. And i didnt see that you were taking nolva. So you want to take nolva and letro on cycle?

[felk87]

i dont understand your question. And i didnt see that you were taking nolva. So you want to take nolva and letro on cycle?

no bro, i've read they cancel each other out. i started my cycle last week, i had letro in hand but didnt want to take it right away since it would kill my libido, so instead i wanted to let the test set in a bit before i started an ai, so i used 10mg ed of nolva since the first pin, now that i feel like bloat is my enemy i am wanting to take an ai which i have letro in hand. i also ordered liquidex that should be here by sat at the latets. my question is since i been reading on letro there seems to be studies suggesting letro doesnt fully peak until 60 days, so if i start taking .5mg E3D until my dex gets in i would be prone to the gyno receptors since the letro isnt even doing much. so my question is would it be wise to continue my nolva 10mg ED along with letro .5mg E3D until i get the dex, or should i just take the .5mg of letro E3D untili get the dex and continue with the dex .25mg EOD. i just dont want tatas.

[gixxerboy1]

if you will have the the l-dex by sat i wouldnt even start the letro. What are you going to take it once?

[felk87]

if you will have the the l-dex by sat i wouldnt even start the letro. What are you going to take it once?

maybe =), i already took .5mg so should i stop the nolva completly

[gixxerboy1]

i would stop it.

[felk87]

i would stop it.

sounds good.

[Dillan]

i took placebo acid once what a trip

[felk87]

i took placebo acid once what a trip

good try kid.