Cabergoline???

[ranger.rick]

Age: 1 month shy of 24
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 220
Diet: High Protein, High Fat, Low Carb
Training experience: 4/5 years

Proposed cycle:
Deca 600mg wks 1-14
Test 750mg wks 1-17
Dbol 30mg ED wks 1-4
Winny 50mg ED wks 12-17
Adex .25mg E3D wks 1-17
Cabergoline ???
HCG 1000IU ED for ten days leading up to PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Liv52 throughout

I'm wondering if anyone here has ran a cycle like this, and would have any thoughts/suggestions? Also, I'm familiar with cabergoline's use, but unfamiliar with whether to just keep on hand, or dose throughout? It seems expensive to take throughout my cycle? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. This is my third cycle. Thank you.

[tomt45]

Thats a heavy cycle man. What are your goals from this cycle? Most guys are suggesting to run a low dose of hcg starting after week 3 or so and running it up until pct.

I would cut it back to 12 weeks or 14 at the most. If you are trying to bulk keep the dbol . If you are trying to cut keep the winstrol . I wouldnt do orals at the start and finish of a cycle. Too hard on the liver. Pct looks good. I don't think you will need caber. I never do even when I run test prop and tren . See what these guys say though. I guess it wouldnt hurt to have it on hand just in case.

IMO you can get good results with lower doses. 600mg of test every week and 400mg of deca would be more reasonable especially considering this is only your third cycle.

[ranger.rick]

I appreciate the advice tomt45. I'll dial back the test/deca dose to 600/400. I have used HCG the way you previously stated, but have heard that some like to run it the way I stated. Any further insight to this would be appreciated. I'll skip the cabergoline since I had no prolactin sides when I ran a test/tren cycle.

As far as the two orals go, I really want something to jump start my cycle (dbol ), but have also heard good things about deca working in conjunction with winny. Anyway to safely keep them both? I.E. run them for a shorter period, or cut the dose? Thanks again.

[ScotchGuard02]

What's your bf? Is this your first cycle? Ranger, you do know that you don't have to cycle everything at once. You can do many cycles and make gains over time. The rule of thumb that I've seen is that slower your gains, the safer the cycle. Your cycle's really heavy. I definitely wouldn't recommend it if this is your first cycle and your body fat's above low teens. You're just asking for trouble. Be safe, start slow and work into this cycle.

[ranger.rick]

This is my third cycle, and my BF% is 12. Still too heavy a cycle for my third you think? Thanks

[ghettoboyd]

i think your cycle is fine....id run the caber .5mg every 3rd day if you decide you want to use it as a precautionary measure...

[ghettoboyd]

i would however run the hcg much sooner on cycle and througout its duration seeing as its a long one...good luck...

[ranger.rick]

Will do. I had heard of the way I previously posted, but it sounds like I should just stick to the way I did before. I have also read that some people take a one or two week break from their HCG , in order to give the receptor a rest. Any info on this? Or is that the opinion of only a few? RLTW.

[Jman123]

As far as the hcg goes, I would run it throughout the cycle at 500iu x 2/wk. Maybe throw it in on the third week or so and run it until one week before pct. This is based on experience from my last cycle and heavy research. When I ran hcg on my last cycle, I started it too late and could not regain testicle size until pct. It did prevent any further shrinkage, though, once I started it. If you're really worried about shrinkage, you could start it even the first or second week. I plan on starting it the first week on my next cycle as I don't see any negatives to doing this except spending a little more money. From what I've read, 500iu x 2/wk will not desensitize you.