I give up

**sade80** · 01-21-2012, 12:25 AM

Has anyone done a cycle as long as 9 months solid and recovered fine? I took high doses of Test Enanathate only for that length of time 2 years back and never recovered. I now have testicular failure primary hypogonadism where my LH is high and no amount of pct will work. Serms boost lH which increase test but my LH is already high so boosting it anymore won't do jack.

I can't get an hard on what so ever. And the doctors isn't helping me at all. I've been shut down so long that I'm planning on going back on Test E at high doses of 250 - 300mg for life. I'm 31 and shouldn't be having these problems. I got into cycling steroids so that i could have a better body and bang more chicks but instead I've ended up losing my dick.

**canadianbrah** · 01-21-2012, 12:50 AM

thats tough brah, I'm sure some forum Vets will chime in here soon...

**Razor** · 01-21-2012, 12:56 AM

Well you never run cycles for 9 months. Thats insane.
Your LE might be permantley shut down.

**Times Roman** · 01-21-2012, 12:57 AM

Yeah, aas is nothing to fukc around with. Why do you think we jump all over the youngsters who want to start cycling at 19?

How old are you mate?

**Honkey_Kong** · 01-21-2012, 01:00 AM

Which doctors have you seen (type of doctor not specifically who)? And are they aware of your 9 month roid cycle?

**slfmade** · 01-21-2012, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Yeah, aas is nothing to fukc around with. Why do you think we jump all over the youngsters who want to start cycling at 19?

How old are you mate?

I think he said 31 in the OP.

**Times Roman** · 01-21-2012, 02:04 AM

yep, he did say 31... my bad for not reading the entire post

***t-gunz*** · 01-21-2012, 02:14 AM

so you got blood test i presume to know the results

so if its that bad mate go see another doc. tell him ur issues and show him the blood test.

somethings gotta get done asap mate.

i assume you have also done a PCT to try and recover ?

**RuckusDC5** · 01-21-2012, 03:30 AM

Very aware.

**Gym_** · 01-21-2012, 03:36 AM

Thats fuked up... why did you run test for so long ?

**Bulkn** · 01-21-2012, 03:42 AM

Hopefully swifto can help you out. Goodluck.

**Gym_** · 01-21-2012, 04:33 AM

yeah keep us informed be nice to know how it turns out for ya

**Swifto** · 01-21-2012, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by sade80

Has anyone done a cycle as long as 9 months solid and recovered fine? I took high doses of Test Enanathate only for that length of time 2 years back and never recovered. I now have testicular failure primary hypogonadism where my LH is high and no amount of pct will work. Serms boost lH which increase test but my LH is already high so boosting it anymore won't do jack.

I can't get an hard on what so ever. And the doctors isn't helping me at all. I've been shut down so long that I'm planning on going back on Test E at high doses of 250 - 300mg for life. I'm 31 and shouldn't be having these problems. I got into cycling steroids so that i could have a better body and bang more chicks but instead I've ended up losing my dick.

Have you run any HCG ?

How do you know you have primary testicular hypogonadism? HCG didn't work?

**MR10X** · 01-21-2012, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Gym_

Thats fuked up... why did you run test for so long ?

He probably read on these forums where people run steroids for long times and decided to do it also........i think peolple call it cruising or something stupid like that......Thats the big problem with these forums,you almost have to know whats right and wrong yourself

**alexISthrowed** · 01-21-2012, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by MR10X

He probably read on these forums where people run steroids for long times and decided to do it also........i think peolple call it cruising or something stupid like that......Thats the big problem with these forums,you almost have to know whats right and wrong yourself

Nothing stupid about blasting and cruising, I think you will find that most of the vets and moniters partake in this. Depends on goals, exp, etc.

**Black** · 01-21-2012, 08:16 AM

Only bloodwork will tell. Go to an endo or urologist and be up front with them. Tell them you'd like to run a full hormone panel. Or if you have a good primary care doc, see if he'll order one up.

**Times Roman** · 01-21-2012, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by alexISthrowed

Nothing stupid about blasting and cruising, I think you will find that most of the vets and moniters partake in this. Depends on goals, exp, etc.

you are taking it out of context mate. We may be on trt, but under the guidance of a licenced doctor. It is not something I take lightly, as it is a life time decision. And you will need to monitor blood panels regularly.

there are reasons to cruise, which has nothing to do with being too lazy to pct.

**MR10X** · 01-21-2012, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by alexISthrowed

Nothing stupid about blasting and cruising, I think you will find that most of the vets and moniters partake in this. Depends on goals, exp, etc.

Blasting and cruising is fine if you intend to stay on TRT for the rest of your life,but if you stay on test for along time you will have problems like the OP.Your exactly right it depends on your goals,if you want to recover your natural test you have to get off the external test,and everybody is different some people will recover after long B & C and some wont like the OP.....He didnt look at his options and paid the price.....

**Whoady** · 01-21-2012, 08:44 AM

I've read about guys who were put on trt because of similar reasons. Some of them said their libido and erections came back for a while but that they ended up having weak erections even on trt. It's a science game playing with hormones. I wish the op good luck.

**gixxerboy1** · 01-21-2012, 09:12 AM

Yes i have. You say hi dose of test. How high were they? What pct did you try?

And yuor right at 31 this shouldnt be happening to the average guy. But you played with your hormones for 9 months. There was a pretty good possibility this would happen after that

**Gym_** · 01-21-2012, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by alexISthrowed

Nothing stupid about blasting and cruising, I think you will find that most of the vets and moniters partake in this. Depends on goals, exp, etc.

1st ive heard of it... ive always been led to believe 10-12 week test max of 3 a year... dont ask me the , thread or anything i got this from .. that was just the general impression i got from my research.

**jamesz123** · 01-21-2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by sade80

Has anyone done a cycle as long as 9 months solid and recovered fine? I took high doses of Test Enanathate only for that length of time 2 years back and never recovered. I now have testicular failure primary hypogonadism where my LH is high and no amount of pct will work. Serms boost lH which increase test but my LH is already high so boosting it anymore won't do jack.

I can't get an hard on what so ever. And the doctors isn't helping me at all. I've been shut down so long that I'm planning on going back on Test E at high doses of 250 - 300mg for life. I'm 31 and shouldn't be having these problems. I got into cycling steroids so that i could have a better body and bang more chicks but instead I've ended up losing my dick.

Are you kidding with us or what ?
Some one with that issue will go to a number of doctors and be on a bunch of stuff (under the doctors guidance) to fix the problem. The last place he is likely to end up is a place were people are juicing for bodybuilding purposes. Sorry but I just get a weird feeling when I read your post...

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 01-21-2012, 12:57 PM

9 months is long, but not impossible to recover from IMO.

I want to know EVERYTHING you took in the past two years since the cycle. Have you run any AIs by themself just for cutting purposes? Have you taken any tribulus or longjack root? Any test booster or estrogen inhibitor, herbal or pharmaceutical, and for how long?

Also, what was your PCT after this cycle? Where you taking one or two large shots of hcg ie, 5000iu, or smaller shots everyday ie, 250-750iu? Did you use nolvadex while on hcg?

Let me know

**alexISthrowed** · 01-21-2012, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Gym_

1st ive heard of it... ive always been led to believe 10-12 week test max of 3 a year... dont ask me the , thread or anything i got this from .. that was just the general impression i got from my research.

This is the safest way to do it and the best option for most.