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    Second Cycle side effects/PCT questions

    My current stats: 5'8" 192lbs, 18%bf

    I used a cycle about 7 years ago with pretty decent results and no noticeable side effects. I was 165lbs at the start and after 9 weeks of deca /200mg wk and test e 250mg/wk I was up to 188lbs. bf was around 12%. I used Nolvadex 20mg ED during the cycle but did no PCT. I really did not notice a huge loss in gains or side effects. Over time and with age I became a little sloppy with my diet which explains the current bf of 18-19%. I have been active as far as working out and cardio though.

    Now for my current planned cycle which I just started and I am in week 2:

    Norma nandrolone 400mg/wk x 10 weeks
    Test E 500mg/wk x10 250mg weeks 11-12
    Nolva 10mg ED week 1-10
    Nolva 20mg ED week 11-13
    Nolva 40mg ED week 14-15

    Goals are to cut fat and not to bulk up. I've cleaned up bad fats as well as simple carbs. Protein intake is around 250gr daily, carbs between 200-300gr daily, 25-60gr fat(almonds, seafood, olive oil).

    I run 4miles x5days per week
    Lift 5 days a week(alternate heavy and light sets within workouts)
    Crossfit type lifts x 1 day week

    My concerns are side effects from the deca(gyno) as well as what I should do for PCT. How bad would it be if I only used nolva for PCT? How long would natural test take to recover? The only reason I am running Deca/test for cutting is because they are the only guaranteed real products I have access to. Would I be better off to bulk as much as I can and then cut once I'm off cycle?

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    i would cycle at this point but you already started. I would def drop the deca and run the test only.
    I would order clomid from ar-r . Nolva is not enough of a pct
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    You wouldn't cycle? Is that because of the bf% or my goals? Why drop the deca ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaCR View Post
    You wouldn't cycle? Is that because of the bf% or my goals? Why drop the deca?
    Yes for the bf%. You are at higher risk for side effects
    You dont need steroids to cut at 18%
    deca is typically used for bulking. It bloats the hell out of me
    your pct timing is all off.
    i would use an ai on cycle not nolva
    It honestly doesnt seem like you fully understand what you are doing. These drugs can cause health problems
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Def add clomid to PCT and why do you have nolvadex tapering up from 10-40mgs shouldn't taper down 40/40/20/20 for 4 weeks ? Also arimadex or HCG would be more helpful on cycle.

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