Second Cycle - Test E / Deca

**The Lux** · 02-02-2012, 06:37 PM

Hey Lads,

I wanted some feeback on your thoughts on running my second cycle. I have been lifting for about 8 years, did my first cycle back end of last yr (OCT). I diet well and train effing hard!

My initial cycle was Test 300 on its own, 500mcg's a week for 10 weeks, with Nolva PCT. Worked well, gained 4-5kg lean, no side's (small amount of achne). This was well over 4 months ago.

I would like to hit test-E, that way I only have to hit twice a week. 600mcg a week with 250-300mcg of Deca with it.

Would love some feedback. Possible issues / expected gains etc.

Thanks

**songdog** · 02-02-2012, 07:12 PM

Bro no need to raise the dose of test 500 is good for a while.I would run the deca at 300mgs a week for 12 weeks.You will also need to run a AI like Adex.For pct run both nova and clomid.

**stpete** · 02-02-2012, 07:15 PM

Can we get some stats?

**The Lux** · 02-05-2012, 03:36 PM

26 yrs old, 6'2", 90kg. I havnt measured BF but prob around 12-15% I would think.

I know Deca is prone to plenty of water retention. Are there ways of getting around this? I have continually read to run Deca about half of the test you're running. This would prvent complications with sex drive. Any problems with running a slower acting ester like E as apposed to the 300 I ran intitially? In hind sight, I would have run Test E on my first cycle....

**BBrian** · 02-05-2012, 03:50 PM

Taking an adequate amount of an AI will combat the water retention from deca . The 1:2 ratio of deca to test is a very vague one and is not necessary for preventing a loss of libido. I personally feel that 400mg deca and 500-600mg test would be a great 2nd cycle for someone trying to bulk, but opinions certainly vary. I'm currently taking 600mg deca and around 800mg test per week, but I've been experimenting with steroids for 12 years in total.