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02-21-2012, 05:01 PM #1
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A Little help please on some basics
Hi i am new to to the forum
I have trained for many years now 3 day, 4 day and 5 day weeks
Really im only interested i some short oral cycle just to boost training any help?
is this just silly idea? Id like to keep water retention down and just increase some strength and lean mass with out injection
1-6 weeks Dbol 40mg Daily
4-6 weeks Stanozol 30mg Daily
30 days Nolvadex -D 20mg Daily
Also while im hear my friend reads links on this 'celeb' training he does lots of cardio and circuits 8 reps of 6-8 exercises for 3 sets.. 3x weekly
1-6 weeks Clenbuterol 80-120 mcg every other day
2-6 weeks Stanozol 30mg Daily
Any advice or productive criticism would be helpful
Many Thanks
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02-21-2012, 05:03 PM #2
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Reread sorry about the poor grammar
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02-21-2012, 05:08 PM #3
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what are your stats?
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02-21-2012, 05:34 PM #4
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5 11
76kg
8% body fat
Would the Few weeks Dbol allow a little water retain to ease the soreness stanazol could cause?
And for friend
5 12
90kg
13% body fat
Many thanks
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02-21-2012, 05:40 PM #5
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ages?
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02-21-2012, 06:22 PM #6
Originally Posted by capner1
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02-21-2012, 08:04 PM #7
He is only 23
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02-22-2012, 01:11 AM #8
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Im 23
friend is 28
Im not the smallest of lads but then i am not big. Which suits me fine. I have been training since 17-18, What i can see im doing right, last year or so at least. warm up, deit (5-6 meals/shakes), train hard in gym, 50mins. Im not after growth so to speak just more a drive to push myself more then my body is letting me. I have many years left in me hence the idea of a simply steady 6on - 4off week cycle?
i have Dbol ds, stantabs, la clen and nolva. I know what i have read but never had the chance to talk to anyone
Again thank you for your time helping me
bench 135-140 (max) would like this to be double my Body weight
Squat 260 (6)
Shoulder press 80 (6)
Pull up +35 (6)
Dips +35 (6)
i can lose 5kg on a exercise but back to basics and it stops with the above
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02-22-2012, 07:40 AM #9
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Hi guys
Been reading posts and I noticed it is unlikely I will get advice being as my age is 23.
I have everything and am keen and ready to take but sensibly.
Please could you share your advice as Would help and act as a guildeness instead of me just randomly picking
many Thanks
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02-22-2012, 09:28 AM #10
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where to start... well first 30mg a winny is to low. You want to do at least 50mg in my exp. Horrible cycle in my opinion. The d bol gains are going to be mostly water. dbol has its purpose as a cycle jump starter. You using one compound (dbol) to add massive amounts of water and one (winny) that will lower water retention. Kind of counter productive if you ask me. That being said why wont you use a needle? If you are not man enough to use a needle your not man enough to do steroids (safely) in my opinion. Check out the beginers cycle sticky.
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02-22-2012, 10:16 AM #11
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Thanks for the comment..
Iv been reading for months now and I noticed sometime ago most starting cycles
1-4 week. dbol 40 ED
1-10 bweek. Enanthten 200 every 3 day
7-10 week Stranzol 40-60 ED
30day Pct
Seems to be most common biginner
But I was kinda in it for the strength gains not size just wanted to dip my feet in and try, was only a idea I had to drop the inject hence why I posted just for the guldinessLast edited by capner1; 02-22-2012 at 10:26 AM.
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02-22-2012, 10:25 AM #12
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So you saying no point running if I'm not injecting?
What about var? Any info?
But on that note if I get a 10ml vail 200/ml do I just take the 1ml or dilute?
Thanks againLast edited by capner1; 02-22-2012 at 10:30 AM.
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02-22-2012, 10:36 AM #13
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To increase your strenght you just need to bulk a little, bump ur macros slightly and mix up your training
Dropsets,Forced Reps, Negatives, Pyramid the weight instead of doing 3 sets at x.
Focus on Compound movements a 5x5 approach may work well for you also
Thats honestly all you need at moment mate
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02-22-2012, 10:37 AM #14
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Var is great for strength but little size.
as to your other question a vial of what?
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02-22-2012, 12:59 PM #15
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Thanks I do mainly 5x5 every other training cycle (6 weeks) week off then try a new one for 6weeks.
Ok var maybe a good idea for me to stay off inject, any advice on cycles?
Referring to pevious about injecting really the 'only way'
Does a vail of Enanthate 200/ml need to be diluted or just take 1ml every 3 days
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02-22-2012, 04:22 PM #16
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02-22-2012, 04:39 PM #17
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looks good
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02-22-2012, 04:50 PM #18
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Just like to say thanks to all posts positive or negative welcome only way to learn
1-4 week. dbol 40 ED
1-10 week Test E200 every 3 day
7-10 week Stranzol 40-60 ED
30day Pct
The Routines and diet is all sound only 6 years training but have picked up some great help on the way, from all different back grounds
and to the 'Keep researching' with out sounding rude, do you not think that why i am asking here there, is only so much you can learn about steriods off product info pages.
I would like to keep on just a oral cycle if possible just to help that is all im not after massive gains in any department.
When it comes to taking id like to be sure.Last edited by capner1; 02-22-2012 at 04:56 PM.
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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