Is my estogen too low?

[Todd the truth]

stats:
38 y/o 220lbs 6'2" training since 18 last bod-pod was in May was 18% cut down to 15%.
Week 4 of cycle:
Test Cyp: 200mg monday am / 200mg thursay pm
HCG : 250 units sq with each test injection.
started Arimidex 0.5mg with first test cyp. injection, paranod about getting gyno.

plan to continue HCG until 3 days before PCT which I will start 18 days after last test injection.
PCT plan: (It changes everytime I read on here)
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolvadex 40/20/20/20

have letro on hand in case gyno.

This week my appetite, motivation, labido have tanked. I can stay in bed all day just so tired. Reading some other posts about low E2 levels I think I might have tanked my estogen level overdoing it with the Arimidex. Last dose was Sunday and I cut it down to 0.25mg and plan on running it at 0.25mg every other day.

Going to get blood work later this week, either tomorrow or next day. Does it sound like I over did it on the arimidex? I know labs will tell for sure.

[xelnaga]

Others may disagree on what Im about to suggest. When I crash my E2 I stop all AI until I feel like Im getting back to myself. If you crashed at .5mg, think about how hard your making it on your body to get E2 up by continuing to run .25 eod.

[Todd the truth]

do you think I crashed my E2? i've been thinking of waiting a 6 or 7 days to restart a-dex at 0.25md every third day. I'm afraid that I'm gonna start a roller-coaster. As of right now i think I'm gonna wait a few days before re-starting arimidex my reasoning is that I'm running a pretty conservative cycle I might not even need an AI.

[xelnaga]

do you think I crashed my E2? i've been thinking of waiting a 6 or 7 days to restart a-dex at 0.25md every third day. I'm afraid that I'm gonna start a roller-coaster. As of right now i think I'm gonna wait a few days before re-starting arimidex my reasoning is that I'm running a pretty conservative cycle I might not even need an AI.

If your diet is sufficient, your getting a ton of sleep, your not over training and your not boozing ( or anything like that) crashed e2 could be the problem.

[xelnaga]

I agree that at 400mg a week of test you need to be very conservative with your AI.

[Todd the truth]

Thanks for the help

[freak1]

hey todd can u keeep me posted on your resulst plz.im kinda goin through te same thing right now and have beeen told to swtch to .25 e3d or eod from .25 ed i was doin.jusat felt tired and less strentgh as well.im running 600 test e a wk

[Todd the truth]

Sure I stopped AI 3 days ago and am starting to feel better still not back 100% buy better than I was Monday for sure. When I start back I'm gonna take 0.25 e3d

[JAB1]

SImilar situation here only much milder with the possible low e2 sides. On 500 mg/week test. Taking adex .25 eod. I feel good, labido good, etc. But, I want to feel GREAT!! Thinking off backing of to e3d or more to see how things go. Im half way through week four so should be feeling it more I would think.

[jeepfreak]

have you ever cycled before? are you gyno prone ? i had something like that happen to me on my first test only cycle. i had an AI on hand but did not use it. i got paranoid one day about 5 weeks in and thought i might have maybe felt my nipple itch so i freaked out and started taking that same dose. looking back i dont think i had gyno at all but live and learn i guess? after i started it my attitude, sex drive, everything just went down the drain....kept cutting dose back more and more and ended up at .25 e3d before i started feeling better. i eventually stopped taking it all together because i really didnt need it at all...i guess what im trying to say is if youre not gyno prone maybe try not taking it at all, plenty of people do. but in the end, you are the only one who can feel how your body is responding and will have to make that desicion. but for me, i dont think i needed it at all.

[Todd the truth]

I end up always feeling my nipples constantly checking for Gyno and end up with sore nipples that way.

[Todd the truth]

But, I want to feel GREAT!! .

Exactly !! I guess there is some trial and error with first cycles !?!

[felk87]

have you ever cycled before? are you gyno prone ? i had something like that happen to me on my first test only cycle. i had an AI on hand but did not use it. i got paranoid one day about 5 weeks in and thought i might have maybe felt my nipple itch so i freaked out and started taking that same dose. looking back i dont think i had gyno at all but live and learn i guess? after i started it my attitude, sex drive, everything just went down the drain....kept cutting dose back more and more and ended up at .25 e3d before i started feeling better. i eventually stopped taking it all together because i really didnt need it at all...i guess what im trying to say is if youre not gyno prone maybe try not taking it at all, plenty of people do. but in the end, you are the only one who can feel how your body is responding and will have to make that desicion. but for me, i dont think i needed it at all.

Ai are not just for gyno, they are to control elevated levels of estrogen that can lead to problems. So you must take an ai just find a dose that works for you, to much estrogen in your body you wont feel great.

[Todd the truth]

Ai are not just for gyno, they are to control elevated levels of estrogen that can lead to problems. So you must take an ai just find a dose that works for you, to much estrogen in your body you wont feel great.

Yep true, but Gyno is the permanent one

[DeadlyD]

Great thread guys, I'm only 1 week in my test E only cycle (250mgs2xa week) I'm paranoid about gyno and sides too, I started .25 Adex eod from day one. I am only a week in and I'm always feeling my nipples and looking for acne!! It does feel like my nipples are more sensitive but that could be in my head?!? I know its a little early to worry but its all a learning curve with your first cycle.

[felk87]

Yep true, but Gyno is the permanent one

What does that have to do with running an ai or not, you want to take an ai to control ALL sides from high estrogen, not just yo prevent gyno, if it was you could just take nolva, but its not recomended as it only blocks the receptors and will not suppress the high e.

[Todd the truth]

Stopped the arimidex until I felt normal again took about a week and started it back up at 12.5mg every three days, think I'm going to wait another week and get labs drawn.