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    xclusiv96 is offline Junior Member
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    hows my first cycle look? need help with pct

    hey guys this is my first proper cycle.

    week 1-10 tren acetate 100mg eod
    week 1-12 test prop 100mg eod
    week 3-12 masteron 100mg eod

    armidex -1mg eod


    i almost 3 weeks into the cycle i have not had any sides other than increase in body temperature.

    but i seem to be handling everything well. how are the dosages looking ? i know its a bit harsh for the first cycle, but i havent really had any sides.
    should i keep the dosages how they are or increase them?

    i have clomid and armidex for pct

    but im not sure what dosage and when i should start the pct and if clomid and armidex would be suffice.

    my stats are 23 - 178cm tall, 75kg 3 years training

    thanks
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    Hey man I am in no shape or way the person to tell you but from what I have read. Everyone is going to tell you to use test e or c for you first cycle. I am learning to so don't feel bad.

    PCT I am doing research myself ...

    And also 23, is to young!
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    thanks man, but im not a fan of long esters, because if sides happen it wont clear from the body fast enough and possibly an unenjoyable experience which is why i have gone with short esters

    ive noticed major strength increases, but no muscle mass as of yet, i know its been 2 weeks, but i thought possibly im doing to low dosage or maybe im just being impatient,

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    why are you running the tren longer than the test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    why are you running the tren longer than the test?
    that was a typo tren week 1-10, test prop week 1-12, masteron 3-12.

    how should i dose the clomid for pct?

    i know i dont have a solid pct protocol, but i have 12 weeks to figure it out, was hoping for some good input thanks
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    No! It is not proper at all. You should always run a test only cycle to see how your body reacts and deals with aas. You should not even consider tren at all. You are a couple years two young for aas as it is. You need to research more so you do not hurt yourself long term. I am glad you asked before running these compounds.
    Your first cycle
    week 1-10 or 1-12 (you pick) test e is most popular
    pct is clomid and nolva
    adex is an ai and not for pct, you should have this on hand just in case. I would recommend running adex at .25 eod while on cycle. you may want to look into hcg also. definitely helps you bounce back faster

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    hey im already 3 weeks into the cycle with no noticable sides, so what is the issue? just wanted some help with pct dosage.

    so your saying clomid and nolva ?, what dosage and duration should it be run at, and when should it start after cycle is completed?

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    anyone can tell me? how dosages are

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    Start pct two weeks two weeks after last test pin
    Nolva 40 per day everyday for 4 weeks - looks like - 40/40/40/40

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    thanks for the response, but im a little confused as ive read that because of the short half life it should be started fairly quickly? how would i add the clomid in with the novlda is the duration of the pct should be for 4 weeks?

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    I'm not sure on the half life of masteron , but for test prop PCT is usually started about 3 dys after the last injection!

    But dayum 3 compounds inc tren for your first cycle? Thats crazy!

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    thanks for the response, if pct is started 3 days after the last injection

    what should be the duration of the pct?
    and at what dosage and frequency should each compound be taken? meaning the clomid and or nolvadex ?

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    4 weeks is usually enough on normal 1--12 week cycles, but I'd double check if you go through with running all 3 compounds 9 which I don't recommend for your first cycle nvm tren !)

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    When all else fails do research it really helps.

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