Please critique my Test E & Tren E Var cycle

**Justin332** · 03-06-2012, 03:01 PM

Hello, please let me know what you think about my cycle. I am open to any suggestions from more experienced users.

Age: 31
Weight: 215
Height: 6'0
BF: 10.5%
Cycle Experience: 2 previous cycles - 1st Test E/ Var 12 weeks at 400mg, weeks 10-14 var at 60mg/day. 2nd Same cycle but 500mg/test E

Current cycle plan and goals
I would like to gain about 10 pounds of solid muscle, while getting down to about 8% bf. I am hesitant to try tren from the sides but am looking forward to giving it a shot. I don't want to look swollen, would rather look ripped while maintaining significant size.

Test E - Weeks 1-8 400mg/week
Tren E - Weeks 1-8 400mg/week
Var - Weeks 5-10 60mg/daily
ADex - .25mg daily

Clomid, Nolva, HCG at appropriate levels as mentioned on the PCT boards.

Would you change anything from this cycle based on my goals? all feedback is greatly appreciated.

**blksavage** · 03-06-2012, 04:02 PM

run for 12 weeks

**Blergs** · 03-06-2012, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Justin332

Hello, please let me know what you think about my cycle. I am open to any suggestions from more experienced users.

Age: 31
Weight: 215
Height: 6'0
BF: 10.5%
Cycle Experience: 2 previous cycles - 1st Test E/ Var 12 weeks at 400mg, weeks 10-14 var at 60mg/day. 2nd Same cycle but 500mg/test E

Current cycle plan and goals
I would like to gain about 10 pounds of solid muscle, while getting down to about 8% bf. I am hesitant to try tren from the sides but am looking forward to giving it a shot. I don't want to look swollen, would rather look ripped while maintaining significant size.

Test E - Weeks 1-14 500mg/week
Tren E - Weeks 1-10 300mg/week
Var - Weeks 8-14 60mg/daily
ADex - .25mg daily

Clomid, Nolva, HCG at appropriate levels as mentioned on the PCT boards.

Would you change anything from this cycle based on my goals? all feedback is greatly appreciated.

In Red is what I rec.

**Blergs** · 03-06-2012, 04:11 PM

min though 12wks teste 8 tren .

**Justin332** · 03-06-2012, 05:10 PM

Thanks Blergs. Any other thoughts? i thought 8 weeks may ahve been too short but others say they dont' like running tren for more than 8.

**gearbox** · 03-06-2012, 05:24 PM

I would run tren for 8 and test for 12. I would also run hcg . You may wan to consider that.

**Justin332** · 03-06-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

I would run tren for 8 and test for 12. I would also run hcg. You may wan to consider that.

Gearbox I have hcg for pct but not planning on doing it during.

May run test for ten weeks. I get pretty bloated when usin test even with an AI and it keeps me from playing sports.

**gearbox** · 03-06-2012, 06:49 PM

For bloat- watch your sodium intake, and drink a lot of water.
hcg should be ran during cycle. I usually run at week 3 will 9, if you are doing a 10 weeks cycle.
your pct should be clomid and nolva

**Justin332** · 03-06-2012, 08:48 PM

Is there not a problem running HCG and Tren together? I thought I read that on here. Thanks a ton Gearbox and everyone else.

**Justin332** · 03-13-2012, 09:11 PM

Hey guys, should I do hcg at 500iu/week the whole cycle or do it at the end?

**Bulkn** · 03-14-2012, 06:58 AM

Run hcg throughout!!

I just had my very last shot (1hour ago) of a very similar cycle,
Test E 450mg / week (1-12)
Tren E 350mg / week (1-9.5)
Var 75mg /day (started about week 4 and just running 50mg now.)

Honestly i wouldnt run any less test or tren than what i did. Next time ill be doing 400 tren and 600 test 75 var.

**ghettoboyd** · 03-14-2012, 07:08 AM

im at a loss as to why some of you are recomending tren e for 8 weeks max when like test e it takes in my experiance about 4-5 weeks to start experiancing any sides let alone gains...just saying...

**Justin332** · 03-14-2012, 08:31 AM

Awesome thanks

**MRJ241** · 03-14-2012, 08:52 AM

Why are 8 week cycles frowned upon?

**ghettoboyd** · 03-14-2012, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by MRJ241

Why are 8 week cycles frowned upon?

they are not but if you want to run a cycle 8 weeks wouldent it make sense to run a shorter ester like tren a?....

**stpete** · 03-14-2012, 09:06 AM

^^^^My thoughts as well.

**Justin332** · 03-14-2012, 09:20 AM

Can you inject hcg , tren e, and test e all in one needle?

**oatmeal69** · 03-14-2012, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

im at a loss as to why some of you are recomending tren e for 8 weeks max when like test e it takes in my experiance about 4-5 weeks to start experiancing any sides let alone gains...just saying...

Ditto! Don't understand that at all. Run both for 12-14 weeks.

Originally Posted by Justin332

Can you inject hcg, tren e, and test e all in one needle?

HCG subcutaneously above abs. The rest intramuscular, and you can mix the two.

**MRJ241** · 03-14-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

they are not but if you want to run a cycle 8 weeks wouldent it make sense to run a shorter ester like tren a?....

Ok yea that makes complete sense I just haven't seen a lot of positive feedback when someone mentions an 8 week cycle. Guess I haven't seen it under the correct circumstances.

**Justin332** · 03-14-2012, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by oatmeal69

Ditto! Don't understand that at all. Run both for 12-14 weeks.
HCG subcutaneously above abs. The rest intramuscular, and you can mix the two.

I have always injected hcg into the muscle and not sub q. I mixed it with test. Is that not okay?

**JDBeretta** · 03-14-2012, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Justin332

I have always injected hcg into the muscle and not sub q. I mixed it with test. Is that not okay?

Did the HCG actually mix? Oil and water don't really mix too well.

The first time I did HCG, I did it in my glute because I didn't know it was a sub-q shot. My buddy laughed so hard he almost cracked his phone screen when I called him complaining that my butt hurt. I knew something was wrong when I pushed it in and my muscle tensed up like an electric shock. LMFAO.