Advice Needed

[mlalande]

Bros,
I am wondering if you all can help me.
I am in week 2 of week 10 of my 300 mg Deca cyle, starting week 3 on Sunday. I planned to stack if with dbol on week 4 and end with clomid.

I am starting to change my mind on the dBol because of the water retention and bloating. I want to be careful given that I am only 5'8 and I don't want to turn into a tank I'm alreary pretty cut at 152.

Can you guys offer an alternate suggestion to the dbol. Maybe winny at week 6 to 10 instead of the dbol?

Stats:
5'8
152
29 yrs old
unmeasured but veru low body fat
Working out 3 years, 5days/week.
250 mg protein/day

Cylcle
Week 1 to 6 : 300mg deca
Week 6 to 10 : 300 deca , 25mg/day dbol
Clomid

Thanks dudes.

[ireloaded9]

you're 5'8 152lbs?? don't worry bro, u wont become a tank from one cycle of dbol and deca ...winny for weeks 6-10 is a good idea...after it's said and done, you'll be lucky to keep a solid 12 lbs of gains

[FedSki]

pretty strange cycle IMO.

most people take dbol at the start of their cycle to kick start the gains. I wouldn't worry too much about bloating and water - if you find it's becoming a problem towards the end of your cycle them lower you dbol dosages.

why are you not using test? if it's a choice between winny and test, i'd recommend test. start using test (or sust) straight away as well as the deca .

if you decide to go for the winny then make sure you run it for three weeks after you finish taking your deca. this will serve as a bridge until you start taking clomid (which you don't start until three weeks after your last deca shot).

[mlalande]

thanks guys
I will re-think it today.

If I take the test instead of dbol , when and at what week should I start, and, should I keep up with the deca /dbol cycle. Or do I switch the dbol with test.

Thanks for your advice dudes. Verymuch apppreciated

[FedSki]

Originally posted by mlalande
If I take the test instead of dbol, when and at what week should I start, and, should I keep up with the deca/dbol cycle. Or do I switch the dbol with test.

i'm guessing this is your first cycle and you are looking to put on lean mass?

if it is your first cycle then 300mg deca per week will probably be enough given your weight.

as i'm a fan of sust i'd throw in 500mg sust per week - it has slow and fast acting esters so will give you an immediate boost. take two shots of 250mg per week.

or you could go for test. you have to consider the advantages and disadvanges of the different types of test. for example you could start to take 500mg test e per week but that'll take a couple of weeks to kick in so you should take some test p in the meantime.

maybe you need to do a little more homework?

[mlalande]

Thanks for the replies again bros.
Yup...Im just looking to put on lean mass that's it.

Homework..I guess. But after months of reading I concluded, with the advicee of others the deca /dbol would be a great first cylce. Basically
Im re-thinking the dbol and just asking for all your advice.


Its great to see all the help you guys offer.

Thanks again dudes.

[ireloaded9]

i agree with FedSki...if u can get a hold of some sust250 or test, i'd throw either in the mix...this also prevents deca dick...

[Pheedno]

I agrre you should add test but at this point it's going to take untill week 6 to get full effects from any long acting esters. I'd go with Prop at 75mgED(150mgEOD) so that you can start getting the benifits a little earlier. Prop wont carry as much retension either(even though sust isn't bad)

[mlalande]

Thanks guys
in essence, is it too late to add sus or test at week 4 of 10.

[Pheedno]

Originally posted by mlalande
Thanks guys
in essence, is it too late to add sus or test at week 4 of 10.

Too late for Sust IMO
Grab some Test Prop at 75mgED

[FedSki]

Originally posted by mlalande
Thanks guys
in essence, is it too late to add sus or test at week 4 of 10.

I didn't start sust until week 5 but used dbol until then.

Sust has immediate and medium-term acting esters so IMO it's not a bad idea to start using sust straight away.

But as I suggested earlier, backed up by Pheedno, consider using prop - at least for the next few weeks until the long acting esters of sust (or test e) kick in.

[mlalande]

hey guys thanks for taking the time to offer your advice. I appreciate it!