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    Just got my Melanotan 2, any experts?

    I have 3 (tiny) vials each with 10mg of the drug in them.

    Plus 30ml bottle of bac water.

    My initial thought is to put 5ml bac water in a vial then shake.

    So the concentration is 2mg/ml
    Then inject .25ml which would be .25mg

    Is this Ok? Will 5ml even fit in my vial?
    The powder is white and looks hard/stuck together, is this normal.

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    yes that is normal on the powder.

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    Is my mixing ok? Just want to double check before I ruin a vial

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    Is the dosing Ok aswell?

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    I'll only increase dosage i sides are tolerable, if not i'll be happy to use 0.25mg for the full 6 weeks.

    At any point I get my desired colour i'll stop and just maintain.

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    Best candidates for Melanotan 2 are those on the low side on the Fitzpatrick scale. Higher Fitzpatrick scale skin types, those with moles/freckles, darken at rates which can lead to pigmentation issues (dark when you'd prefer not to be - genitals, under-eyes, lips, etc have more melanocytes/melanosomes/etc => word to the wise: protect yourself by covering, spf, sunglasses & being aware of your UVR environment). Blonds, red heads, lizards and those with pale skin have dramatic results with patient supplementation/therapy.

    Melanotan stimulates melanin extremely effectively when combined with UVR. Note: Melanotan is 1,000 times more potent than natural a-MSH.

    Melanotan 2012 Instruction

    Reconstitute Melanotan II from freeze dried powder with bacteriostatic water (BW), MT-2 is a durable peptide that remains potent and preserved for months. Reconstituting (mixing) your Melanotan 2 peptide is a necessity, unless pre-mixed products are purchased (use extreme caution). MT-II experimentation is a large commitment - use careful consideration. Nasal sprays, pre-mixed peptides, pills, oral and loose powder are not often legitimate. There are successful reports of nasal spray experiences, however, they are few and far between. Enzymes will render the peptide inactive if ingested.



    Melanotan II Shipping: Melanotan peptides are stable and do not require special treatment during shipping. After receiving MT-2 it is recommended to store in the refrigerator.

    Mixing Peptides: Add BW to the vial when you are ready to begin research. View the instructional youtube video on the PT-141 Reconstitution.

    Peptide Calculator: Add 100 units (1ml) of water to the vial. 1ml/100 units will minimize the volume that you have to inject and will simplify the arithmetic in your MT-2 experiment.



    1ml syringe (U100), 1ml BW to reconstitute
    Calculations for a desired 500mcg dose:
    Step 1= 1ml syringe
    Step 2= 10mg MT-II
    Step 3= 2ml bact water
    Step 4= 500mcg dose
    => 5 ticks on your insulin pin or 10 units

    Needles: 29-31 gauge X 1/2", 1 CC (100 unit). That is a typical large insulin needle used to mix as well as inject . Use needles one time only (meaning draw from the vial, inject , then discard). Once your technique perfected, injections are about painless. Smaller syringes are nice for accurate measurement...large syringes can be bulky and less precise.

    Starting dose: Your first injection should be a very small dose, for example .25mg (250mcg) or better yet 100mcg (or less). See how you react as sensitivity varies greatly. Goal should be to feel nothing, why get sick right? Dose after dinner, before bed. Any dosing chart stating that you should take a high dose (according to your weight) is dated and dangerous.

    Loading dose: Load with 0.5-1mg once a day. Folks who have used doses in this range generally report getting excellent results. Don’t worry about missing occasional days/doses - this is a lifestyle product meant to be used intermittently. Developing desirable pigment changes while on synthetic melanocyte stimulating hormone (s) can take weeks to months for results.

    Maintaining on Melanotan: Maintenance dosing Melanotan 2 is taking doses less frequently (and/or with less dosage) to avoid becoming darker than desired. Tanning on melanotropins will likely yield a super-physiologic pigmentation. A maintenance dose can help prolong photo-protection delivered through greater melanin density.

    UV Radiation: Melanotan is a poor sunless tanner. UV (from sun or a tanning bed) light is necessary to develop a tan. Without it, almost nothing happens. In other words, NO UV = NO TAN. Well, user will pigment depending on skin type.... If you have loaded for a full month and then start UV exposure, you (and your friends) will be astounded by how fast tanning is possible and how dark you get w/ least damage to skin/body. Moreover, it is advisable to keep areas of your skin that ordinarily get exposure covered up with a towel and/or zinc oxide (nose/lips/face) and let less exposed areas develop pigmentation first. Areas of skin that are typically sun-exposed in your day to day life will respond more readily to the effects of the melanotan peptides.

    Melanotan 2 Storage: Store freeze dried and reconstituted peptides in the refrigerator. Pre-loading injects is good practice, helps evaluate dosage received/planned.

    Note: There are many things you will need to consider before experimenting with this peptide. Cyclic analogues (MT-II) have a wide range of peripheral effects and systemic control is always going to pose an issue in clinical use. Needless to say, MT-II is not an approved or regulated product. MT-II is legal to buy, possess, etc. Variables such as skin type and individual goals benefit greatly from peer review. Ask for critiques, plans and create a user log during use. Seasoned users are generally more than happy to offer tricks of the trade.

    When supplementing a-MSH to tan keep in mind that tanning is a side effect. The tanning response is, in reality, a physiological repair mechanism to instant UV damage of the skin cells (epidermis/dermis). MSH is not going to color your skin, it is going to make your own skin create its own tan and that in turn creates protection (melanin density). If you are looking to be some bronzed beach God with perfectly uniform melanosomes at a specific tone, go mystic tan. Redheads, for example, naturally produce a variant form of melanin that is yellowish-red (pheomelanin). Do not expect a brown tan on a ginger body right away...or ever.

    Know your skin type: Skin type is just one detail which will help create a user log. There are 10s of thousands of melanotan users worldwide who share the experience. Raise awareness and help others who want to hear success stories as well as challenges. Melanotan is a physical and emotion experience to be well prepared for.

    Am I a good candidate for MT-II?
    Melanotan is best suited for the folks with skin types I & II. Prior sun damage, scars, tattoos, freckles, moles, hair color, etc are deciding factors prospective MT-2 users consider. Tanning injections often come on the user radar after sunless tanning disappointment (messy spray tans).



    Melanotan II levels the playing field for skin types I & II. Darker skin types can really go off the charts with MT-II tanning (easy to attain a foolish dark tone - explaining yourself may become necessary).

    How much MT-II should I buy and how long will it last?
    Skin type I: 30-50mg
    Skin type II: 20-30mg
    Skin type III: 10mg

    How long will tan last?
    A tan developed using Melanotan 2 lasts much longer than an ordinary tan. A well-tanned person returning from a beach holiday will lose most of the tan in a month if they stop getting sun. If they had been using Melanotan 2 and continued on maintenance after returning, they would still have most of their tan 3 months later.

    Side effects of MT-II?
    Possible short-term side effects you should know about, including: nausea, appetite loss, facial flushing and increased libido. These may be most noticeable during the first few days of treatment and should taper off. Desensitization occurs rapidly with respect to Melanotan II as well as PT-141.

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    If you are at 2mg/ml .25 ml would be .5 mg and .125 ml would be .25 mg

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    after you read all that you can go to the SPA forum on here and check out all the info on Mel...

    GL

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    Thanks for that man, so the mixing is sorted then, now its just the dosing.

    Is it true that loading is outdated? You should just start low and pyramid up until your desired dose?

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    many people start low because they don't know how it will affect them. yeah.

    I have read of some people on here having some messed up problems with blotchy skin.

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    Yep im def starting at .25mg to see how i react

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    First inject done, 0.33mg should I expect any sides?

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    this thread is relevant to my interests. gonna get me some mel-2 soon, too. hey propandtren, do you tan in the sun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamageDealer
    this thread is relevant to my interests. gonna get me some mel-2 soon, too. hey propandtren, do you tan in the sun?
    Hey bro I just injected 0.33mg 15mins ago no sides just some minor (possibly imagined) facial flushing.

    Im Scottish so definitely not lol, i use sunbeds 1-2 times per week.

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    In def interested now. Any one else have good or poor results/sides. In sure we all would like to hear.

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    Been an hour since my first shot

    All ive had is a little facial flushing, sounds bad but its nothing - face went red and felt hot thats all.

    No nausea
    No boners (actually hoping to experience an mtan boner at some point haha)

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    I went up to 1mg per inject and its not necessary at all..5 mg is plenty and the results will be the same.freckles darkened on me but other than that no other problems.crazy boners at 1 mg,cialis and melanotan 2 together turns you into superman......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR10X
    I went up to 1mg per inject and its not necessary at all..5 mg is plenty and the results will be the same.freckles darkened on me but other than that no other problems.crazy boners at 1 mg,cialis and melanotan 2 together turns you into superman......
    I added 3ml bac water so I have to dose in thirds now next dose is 0.66mg, which i'll stay at until im satisfied with my colour.
    I kinda want to experience the boners haha see if the gf notices

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    Quote Originally Posted by PropAndTren

    I added 3ml bac water so I have to dose in thirds now next dose is 0.66mg, which i'll stay at until im satisfied with my colour.
    I kinda want to experience the boners haha see if the gf notices
    Why not just stick too 1ml of water too 10mg mt2 which is what everywhere recommends, so much easier for measuring bro.

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    M2 can cause you to reveal more freckles just beware

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    I've used this stuff before, worked great. Spend 1 hour in the sun and people will think you were at the beach all weekend. Sorry, can't remember how I mixed it, but I had no sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohim
    M2 can cause you to reveal more freckles just beware
    So does tanning from the sun aswell, u notice it more on mt2 cuz of how it effects u so quickly, I reckon if u were to develop the same tan from the sun alone u would have similar results, u just won't notice the freckles as much as it was much more gradual. Just my opinion. The sun always brings out freckles in people

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    Quote Originally Posted by PropAndTren View Post
    Is the dosing Ok aswell?

    Day 1 - 0.25mg.
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    I'll only increase dosage i sides are tolerable, if not i'll be happy to use 0.25mg for the full 6 weeks.

    At any point I get my desired colour i'll stop and just maintain.
    F*#K NO on this dosing protocol IMO... I ran .25mg day 1-5 then .5mg day 6-18

    You dont notice the colour change very much yourself but people around you do, things were going well until I went to sleep on day 17 and woke up on day 18 covered in a filthy black colour, the only thing I could think of to describe it would be I looked like I was covered in black brake dust. you could pull my skin and see normal underneath, I actually looked dirty and like I needed a shower really bad. I stopped instantly and it took over 2 months of mates taking the piss to clear up enough to not be noticable. it took a full 6 months to clear completely and the last part was my fingernails turned black (a month after stopping)and they were last to grow out.

    I highly suggest a much lower dosing protocol that I have seen people use since. Not going over .25mg a day, its a gradual thing and you can expect miracles instantly, just like everything else we do

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznog6183

    F*#K NO on this dosing protocol IMO... I ran .25mg day 1-5 then .5mg day 6-18

    You dont notice the colour change very much yourself but people around you do, things were going well until I went to sleep on day 17 and woke up on day 18 covered in a filthy black colour, the only thing I could think of to describe it would be I looked like I was covered in black brake dust. you could pull my skin and see normal underneath, I actually looked dirty and like I needed a shower really bad. I stopped instantly and it took over 2 months of mates taking the piss to clear up enough to not be noticable. it took a full 6 months to clear completely and the last part was my fingernails turned black (a month after stopping)and they were last to grow out.

    I highly suggest a much lower dosing protocol that I have seen people use since. Not going over .25mg a day, its a gradual thing and you can expect miracles instantly, just like everything else we do
    What skin type are you I am currently running 500mcg and am close to desired colour. Any one have experience with Maintence dosing?

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    Not sure but I generally tan well, Ijust used it as a kick start to summer to avoid that first burn or 2 I sometimes get and it worked a treat, TOO WELL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznog6183
    Not sure but I generally tan well, Ijust used it as a kick start to summer to avoid that first burn or 2 I sometimes get and it worked a treat, TOO WELL.
    Im kinda in the same boat, I tan pretty well but wanted to take it the next level, I'm close to my desired colour, I will soon start halfing my dosage every couple of weeks by changing shot frequent hopefully will be able to maintain at 500mcg once a week

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    How many times do you guys tan per week?

    I live in a cold climate with 0 natural sun light, so ive just been doing light sunbeds once or twice a week.

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    I just taned every day 10 min in a bed untill i got as dark as i wanted then just as i needed it,your tan last longer with the melanotan. I mix mine with 1mil of water so 10iu equals 1 mg of melanotan.I use the .5 mil syringes and its easier to dose,5iu eq .5mg of melanotan.

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    3rd day

    Injected .66mg again, had no results or darkening freckles so far.
    Just a head rush and a red/hot face after inject.

    Going tanning tomorrow so we shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznog6183 View Post
    F*#K NO on this dosing protocol IMO... I ran .25mg day 1-5 then .5mg day 6-18

    You dont notice the colour change very much yourself but people around you do, things were going well until I went to sleep on day 17 and woke up on day 18 covered in a filthy black colour, the only thing I could think of to describe it would be I looked like I was covered in black brake dust. you could pull my skin and see normal underneath, I actually looked dirty and like I needed a shower really bad. I stopped instantly and it took over 2 months of mates taking the piss to clear up enough to not be noticable. it took a full 6 months to clear completely and the last part was my fingernails turned black (a month after stopping)and they were last to grow out.

    I highly suggest a much lower dosing protocol that I have seen people use since. Not going over .25mg a day, its a gradual thing and you can expect miracles instantly, just like everything else we do
    LMFAO.....be careful brother. this is true stuff. I wish Vet56 would chime in, he's the one that gave me the best advice on M2

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    Each 10mg vial I would use 1ml of BAC WATER to mix.
    Use insulin pins to injects,,painless and easy.
    Start low dose 1/2mg to 1mg. I use the tanning bed
    3x per week while on and my tans are INCREDIBLE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ****
    Each 10mg vial I would use 1ml of BAC WATER to mix.
    Use insulin pins to injects,,painless and easy.
    Start low dose 1/2mg to 1mg. I use the tanning bed
    3x per week while on and my tans are INCREDIBLE!!!
    Started doing it at 0.66mg ED and tanning 2-3 week.

    Done my first sunbed today and im slightly tingly all over, hopefully will go brown with the help of the Mtan

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    Quote Originally Posted by PropAndTren

    Started doing it at 0.66mg ED and tanning 2-3 week.

    Done my first sunbed today and im slightly tingly all over, hopefully will go brown with the help of the Mtan
    Tingling is not usually a good thing u may have been in too long, usually means you are burnt, which is skin damage, how long was your session.

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    i never used it but if you search 956vette has a very good write up on it
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    We both have ben using it for a like a year now...and we tan (me almost every other day and i lay out in summer) WE LOVE IT!
    We both notice a surge of sex drive after a shot and sometimes a weird feeling
    we are both blue eye fair skin i have freakelz and used to get Burt / sun poisiond almost every summer ... i don't barely even get pink anymore now though

    No noticable increase in freakels or darker but maybe 3 moles (i have 2 get derm checks annually due 2 my Melinoma history from all sun poisioning) no new moles with concern.
    I swear, its a gawdsend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy4mySweetheart
    We both have ben using it for a like a year now...and we tan (me almost every other day and i lay out in summer) WE LOVE IT!
    We both notice a surge of sex drive after a shot and sometimes a weird feeling
    we are both blue eye fair skin i have freakelz and used to get Burt / sun poisiond almost every summer ... i don't barely even get pink anymore now though

    No noticable increase in freakels or darker but maybe 3 moles (i have 2 get derm checks annually due 2 my Melinoma history from all sun poisioning) no new moles with concern.
    I swear, its a gawdsend!
    After a year of using what have you found to be a good Maintence dose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by auswest

    Tingling is not usually a good thing u may have been in too long, usually means you are burnt, which is skin damage, how long was your session.
    It was my first sunbed so I just followed the advice of the woman in the salon and done 6mins in the standing up bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PropAndTren

    It was my first sunbed so I just followed the advice of the woman in the salon and done 6mins in the standing up bed.
    Yeah that'd be about right my first couple they put me in at 4 mins then now I do 6 which is enough, keep us posted on your results and experiences sides ect

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    Quote Originally Posted by auswest

    Yeah that'd be about right my first couple they put me in at 4 mins then now I do 6 which is enough, keep us posted on your results and experiences sides ect
    Had no sides yet or color darkening.

    Only reason I know its not fake is because I had a face flush after the first inject.
    I also trust my source 110% hes been in the business 15 years and is a personal friend.

    So i might just need to wait.

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