my first test cycle to look good for beginning of aug

**curly_vancouver** · 03-21-2012, 04:01 AM

Was first going to run a ridiculous test tren and winny cycle for my first real cycle with test, but after a lot of good advice I'm going to stay away from tren for quite awoke till I'm a lil older and more experienced.

Now I'm torn tho, I know that I will 100% be running something before the first weekend of aug, but don't know what.

How does this look?
a 10 week enth cycle like the beginner one here.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.T2maMtR5mSP
Could I run it for 15 weeks starting the second week of april with a dbol kickstart and a winny finish
Is this a bad idea for a first real one
15 weeks would look like this
1-15 test enth 500mg/wk
1-4 dbol 40mg/day
8-15 winny 50mg/day

Either cycle I would be running an ai from day one and hcg at 500iu a week throughout
Pct will hcg 1000iu e3d x 5 kickstart and clomid 100/100/50/50 after that

my stats are
21
6'2
215lbs
11-12%bf
training for 5 years, lifting heavy for 3.
i dont want to hear about how young i am
i ran a var only cycle when i was 17 and a winny only when i was 18, both were when i was un educated and i was a dumb kid. now i have done a few years of reaserch and am confident that i can cycle safely now. and i will never run another cycle again with out test and pct. there is no way i can wait any longer anyways

**ScotchGuard02** · 03-21-2012, 08:04 AM

If you don't want to hear about how young you are then you're probably not ready to take advice from vets that have been where you're at right now. You need to be safe.

**BBrian** · 03-21-2012, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

If you don't want to hear about how young you are then you're probably not ready to take advice from vets that have been where you're at right now. You need to be safe.

X2, because that's all you're going to hear anyway.

**curly_vancouver** · 03-21-2012, 12:29 PM

I'm know all the possible consequences and am confident about taking the risk. I'm not deterred. I'm not going to take tren or deca or anything hard like that yet but I cannot wait any longer to do test. I wan to know if I can safely run the 15 weeks or is it a bad idea and should I stick with 10?

**gixxerboy1** · 03-21-2012, 12:37 PM

being so young you know the risks. Extending the cycle longer adding in other compounds are only upping the damage to your hpta and risks.

**Bi6 7omo** · 03-21-2012, 01:36 PM

Mate , I'm nearly the same age as you I'm 22 , i would like to do a test cycle aswell but ,iv spent hours reading on here, and is it really worth it ? I going to wait ,If you don't recover properly , your struggle to build muscle naturally again , let alone erection failure issues !

**stpete** · 03-21-2012, 02:10 PM

As mentioned, too young and not worth the risk. What's the rush?

**songdog** · 03-21-2012, 02:12 PM

How many ways do you have to be told! At your age there is no safe way.And quit acting like a lil kid a Xmas no one is twisting your arm.

**curly_vancouver** · 03-21-2012, 02:55 PM

Can I get some critiques on my cycle not my age?

**songdog** · 03-21-2012, 02:58 PM

Do to health risks we dont offer cycle advice to anyone under 25.Always been that way bro.

**The Bear 79** · 03-21-2012, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by curly_vancouver

I'm know all the possible consequences and am confident about taking the risk. I'm not deterred. I'm not going to take tren or deca or anything hard like that yet but I cannot wait any longer to do test. I wan to know if I can safely run the 15 weeks or is it a bad idea and should I stick with 10?

I don't think you do. If you don't mind, I would like to see you explain in detail the risks involved in cycling too young. I don't think you really understand what you're facing.

**bigZthedestroyer** · 03-22-2012, 03:52 AM

You should cycle lots of food and weights! At 6'2" 215lbs you still have plenty to add to your frame without AAS. Lift big eat big man. It sucks waiting but the time spen waiting is just as important as the cycle. I'm using my time to maximize my body for a cycle. Im 6'1" and setting at a steady 225 and climbing. I did my first bodybuilding show last July and weighed in at 192lbs. I've come a long way since then. Every bit of it has been hard work on my diet and my work out. Hang in there. You will be amazed at what your body is really capable of if you keep pushing it.

**marcus300** · 03-22-2012, 05:17 AM

Shutting down your natural test before its fully matured can cause your problems you wished you never had. Its not worth shutting down a system whats just got going, use what you have or you may live to regret it.

**sleepingz** · 03-22-2012, 06:28 AM

feel confident about the risks?? youll look and feel so amazing bro, when got bitch tits that you cant get ri of without surgey, a dick that literally wont work without medication and any gains dissipating because your diet and routine is no where near what it should be...

you have got to be smarter than this man, cmon, let these guys help you the natural wy first with a workout an diet criique, at least do that... give it the chance before you destroy yourself an your ego...

**blksavage** · 03-22-2012, 12:36 PM

dosent sound like your going to be getting any help here, lol,

**blksavage** · 03-22-2012, 12:37 PM

actually I take that back they are helping you your getting the best advice you can get and if anyone suggest you do otherwise by going on with it is full of shit