test based steroid advice

[taz89]

I was wondering if any body had any advice as to wether there are any effective test based oral steroids available or wether running a test based pro hormone would be effective whil?t running a cycle of dianabol and stanazol .any ideas ?

[gixxerboy1]

2 orals are not a good idea adding a 3rd is even worse.
either man up and inject or figure out a new idea

[taz89]

In this case what injectable test would be aproriate to run with the dianabol and any ideas of pct ?

[gixxerboy1]

whats your stats?
why do you want to use dbol ?

[taz89]

Im 76.2kg
5ft7
14% b.f
Reason for the dianabol is i want to put on quite a bit of size and few of my mates have taken dbal alone alpha pharma brand and had results fairly quikly secondly i have trained in the past naturaly and gained a good physique,back now 2 months into training and want to start a cycle but although ive researched about many diferent steroids alot contradicion ive found. As i havnt used steroids in the past i dont wanna jump in and take allsorts that i dont know about theres so many different types available im lost as a newbie. Although i know quite a few people and the research seems standard hence the dianabol. Any sugestions?

[gixxerboy1]

how old are you?
yes d-bol wil lgive you results pretty quickly. For the most part its water weight and not permanent

[ScotchGuard02]

Oral only cycle is not very good. It will throw off your endogenous level of Testosterone and you'll have or could have more sides. Orals, like dbol , should be taken with Testosterone injections to maintain your endogenous level of Testosterone. Even a fairly low dose of Test like 200mg is sufficient to maintain your Test level. Dbol will retain a ton of water and you'll have a puffy look. In my first dbol cycle (dbol 60mg/ed + Test Prop 300mg/wk)I gained 25lbs in 4 weeks. When I went through a cutting cycle and lost about 15lbs. Without the Test P I would have lost even more weight. Is this your first cycle?

[ScotchGuard02]

Oral only cycle is not very good. It will throw off your endogenous level of Testosterone and you'll have or could have more sides. Orals, like dbol , should be taken with Testosterone injections to maintain your endogenous level of Testosterone. Even a fairly low dose of Test like 200mg is sufficient to maintain your Test level. Dbol will retain a ton of water and you'll have a puffy look. In my first dbol cycle (dbol 60mg/ed + Test Prop 300mg/wk)I gained 25lbs in 4 weeks. When I went through a cutting cycle and lost about 15lbs. Without the Test P I would have lost even more weight. Is this your first cycle? How old are you?

[taz89]

Im 23, yea i can c now an oral cycle would be very toxic, and an injectable test would be inevitable for a good cycle, so test propionate would be a suitable test to run along the dbal,what kind of injectable steroid would put on similar gains to the dbal but find it easier to retain the gains? Yes this will be my first cycle so any advice is much appreciated

[Big Bacto]

If you feel like your not ready for injection , my advice is don't rush it . Orals only can work pretty good but it's more dangerous cuz it cause more stress on liver . But if your mind is set on orals do your self a favor and keep it 6 weeks max & run liv 52 through the cycle for liver protection . On the other hand if your gonna inject I would recommend short ester like testosterone prop so u can see how your body reacts to it , plus the d-bol for the 1st 4weeks to kick it in and don't forget PCT and an Ai before u start with ur cycle .

[ScotchGuard02]

If this is your first cycle just hold off for a couple of more years. The adult male's brain does not fully develop until they're about 25. Introducing synthetic hormones could affect the development of your endo system. Don't do an oral only cycle it'll throw of your endogenous Test level. You'll get more problems down the road.

[gixxerboy1]

If you feel like your not ready for injection , my advice is don't rush it . Orals only can work pretty good but it's more dangerous cuz it cause more stress on liver . But if your mind is set on orals do your self a favor and keep it 6 weeks max & run liv 52 through the cycle for liver protection . On the other hand if your gonna inject I would recommend short ester like testosterone prop so u can see how your body reacts to it , plus the d-bol for the 1st 4weeks to kick it in and don't forget PCT and an Ai before u start with ur cycle .

most people cant handle the pain and eod injections of test prop

[Big Bacto]

most people cant handle the pain and eod injections of test prop

Yea I heard some people say its painful injection , but I'm talking from my personal experience I found propionate the best and the smoothest to inject plus the short ester is a good thing . "but hey every one reacts different ".

[DeadlyD]

Usually test enanthate only would be a good first cycle, but I agree with others on holding off bit and learning more!