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    Finally got trt...

    Finally got put on trt, 200mg test c every two weeks. Seems real low ik but that is where they are starting out to see how much i need. My question is this. Once they get my dosage set, i will have three months in between blood test. What short esther steroids can be run for like an 8 week cycle so my levels will b normal when i go in for blood work.

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    you can run prop. you will be pinning ed or eod.

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    And prop is a short enough esther to be able to run a 8-10 week cycle, and have my levels back to what they should be with just a 200 mg dose of test c?

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    How much prop would u suggest running? I have only ever run blends before and looking at the amount of test p in test 400 its like 25 mg. also test 400 is comprised of test e, test p, and test c.. could i just continue to run that.. they are all short esthers right?

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    The Prop is a short ester. Run test p for 8 weeks at 350mg/wk for the first go and see how the numbers come out. You will still see nice gains with that amount.

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    Awesome thanks. to both of u. Anyother info or advice is welcomed

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    you need to run a low dose of an ai
    and get clomid nolva for pct.
    however you should have both of these before you run a cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    you need to run a low dose of an ai
    and get clomid nolva for pct.
    however you should have both of these before you run a cycle
    Please reread the thread title and think about that statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGK View Post
    And prop is a short enough esther to be able to run a 8-10 week cycle, and have my levels back to what they should be with just a 200 mg dose of test c?
    The extra test from the prop will be completely gone within a week.

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    Bonaparte, what do you reccomend dosing at, how much per pin and how often to pin.?
    27, 6 foot, 210,

    And gearbox, i have pct and ai always on hand b4 i start a cycle. Although im not sure if i will need a pct since ill never fully be coming off right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    The extra test from the prop will be completely gone within a week.
    n u mean levels in the blood right? but the effects last 2 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGK View Post
    Bonaparte, what do you reccomend dosing at, how much per pin and how often to pin.?
    27, 6 foot, 210,

    And gearbox, i have pct and ai always on hand b4 i start a cycle. Although im not sure if i will need a pct since ill never fully be coming off right.


    If you are going to be on TRT then no, there is not PCT required since you are not expecting your natural test to take over again and you will always be using test. AI may or may not be needed; only blood test will tell for sure. You may want to look into or research HCG .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGK View Post
    n u mean levels in the blood right? but the effects last 2 weeks?
    Prop? It only has a half-life of 2 days. So it will wash out in under a week.
    But it is undetectable in urinalysis (for sports testing) after 2 weeks.

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    K so it will be out of my blood in under a week and out of my urine after 2 weeks.? And im still wondering how much to run a week, and if i should pin every day or every other

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    Once you get your levels sorted out, hopefully they will let you go six months between blood work. Every three months is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGK View Post
    Finally got put on trt, 200mg test c every two weeks. Seems real low ik but that is where they are starting out to see how much i need. My question is this. Once they get my dosage set, i will have three months in between blood test. What short esther steroids can be run for like an 8 week cycle so my levels will b normal when i go in for blood work.
    Thats cool but I dont like the 14 day window between injections. I would rather see you do 100mg every 5-7 days.

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    ^^^Exactly. Your doc doesn't understand the half life of cyp. Educate her and go to a minimum of once a week at 100mg or split to every 3.5 days at 50 for even more stable levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    Once you get your levels sorted out, hopefully they will let you go six months between blood work. Every three months is ridiculous.
    Well i get bloodwork every 3 months to make sure the testicular cancer i had isnt back. They check two kinds of proteins that get elevated when u have cancer . So since im already in there for those tests they are gonna run the test, test as well to see how things are working out for me. But he said after the first 6 months they will prob go to testing evry 6 months or even a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    ^^^Exactly. Your doc doesn't understand the half life of cyp. Educate her and go to a minimum of once a week at 100mg or split to every 3.5 days at 50 for even more stable levels.
    He said we were gonna start at 200 every 2 weeks and see how that works out. Im only gonna be gettin pinned by him the first time, bc he thinks i dont have any experience. He also asked me to bring my gf so he could show her how to do it to make it easier for me, So i will have the test at my house and will prob do the injections 100mg every week. I was thinkin the same thing its such a short esther why a 2 week lapse.

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    But i will be pinning myself not having my gf do it lol even though shes a nurse and all.

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    doctors mostly think about patient comfort. the fewer pins the better. they think most patients would rather tolerate the peak and trough of 2wk pinning rather than pinning more often. thats for regular patients.

    but for vet juicers, thats another story.

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    So how much prop should i run when i start to cycle, after i get my trt worked out? mg? how often would i inject etc? i only have experience with test 400 and andro 275 and thos i pinned every monday and thurs

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    My endo does bw once a year or it seems when he doesn't want to refill the script. I agree with everyone on the once a week pin. It sure levels out the test levels and you'll feel much better.

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