To Dbol or not Dbol...that is the question.

**Lunk1** · 08-06-2012, 09:15 PM

Ok... I am preparing for my 4th cycle. The other 3 have been Test P/Tren A x2 and the last was Test E and Tren E with tren run at double the test dose ie: 500 mg tren/250 mg test.

I am planning to run the next one nearly the same with small increases as the sides were not bad at all. I am considering 600 mg tren/400 mg test.

The question is...to add some Dbol into this 16 week cycle or not. Please explain why you would or would not. Thank you in advance!

**t-dogg** · 08-06-2012, 09:16 PM

Ive never really understood why anybody uses dbol .

Running 16wks of tren ?

**DeadlyD** · 08-06-2012, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Ive never really understood why anybody uses dbol.

Whats wrong with dbol ?

**Lunk1** · 08-06-2012, 09:23 PM

Yes 16 weeks...Its Tren E so you can knock off 2-3 weeks before it even kicks in...my experience anyhow!

Running 16wks of tren?[/QUOTE]

**BlueWaffle21** · 08-06-2012, 09:31 PM

Why not Tbol?

**stpete** · 08-06-2012, 09:32 PM

Are you going to stop the tren and test at the same time? Personally, i'd run the test for a little longer w/HCG throughout. PCT? I don't see anything wrong w/some d-bol. 40mgs for the first 4-5 weeks should be fine.

**t-dogg** · 08-06-2012, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by DeadlyD

Whats wrong with dbol?

Whats good about it? You dont keep any gains really. Its mostly water weight, which as soon as you stop you lose it. Correct me if im wrong?

Actually anybody can speak up about dbol .

**stpete** · 08-06-2012, 10:19 PM

I like d-bol. Yeah, it's water but it does work till the real stuff kicks in. No doubting that.

Unless you get bunk shit. And i guess there's a lot of that going around lately.

**measuretwicecutonce** · 08-06-2012, 10:20 PM

do not run dbol with tren . even an enathate ester such as ur tren will be in ur blood plasma levels 24 hours after u pin. dbol aromatizes heavily to estrogen. n estrogen provokes progestrin which the tren will induce. therefore running dbol is asking for more sides from the tren n progesterone.

i like ur test tren ratio : )

**austinite** · 08-06-2012, 10:21 PM

dbol has a bad rep because very few people use it properly. It's not my favorite, but certainly not a terrible drug.

**t-dogg** · 08-06-2012, 10:32 PM

So what is good about it then? Ive never seen anything good compared to other compounds.

**austinite** · 08-06-2012, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

So what is good about it then? Ive never seen anything good compared to other compounds.

Just a kick start, pick up heavier weights. Water retention is not a feature I look for in a compound, I agree with you... But it's not all water. Now use it for 10 weeks and I'll be the 1st to call you out.

DBOL is not 100% water where you will lose everything. That's an old wives tale. You can gain decent muscle and great strength. It's a good kick start bulker. Water retention can be minimized with diet and AI's. Steroid novices are very eager to swallow these pills. Which in turn, spreads a whole lot of non-sense bro science. Because novices are rarely found to be eating properly or even using AI's for that matter. Those are the same folks that lose all gains from Test cycles.

And you're right, it's not comparable. Not too many compounds are. I'll take dbol before I take EQ. (but my dbol days are over anyway).

**t-dogg** · 08-06-2012, 10:56 PM

Call me out about what? Meaning if I ran it for 10wks?

I didnt say 100% water, I said mostly water weight. I can get way better gains from stacking Test with something other then that.

But, I guess I understand the whole kick start thing. To each there own. Im not a body builder so that doesnt really appeal to me.

**austinite** · 08-06-2012, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Call me out about what? Meaning if I ran it for 10wks?

I didnt say 100% water, I said mostly water weight. I can get way better gains from stacking Test with something other then that.

But, I guess I understand the whole kick start thing. To each there own. Im not a body builder so that doesnt really appeal to me.

Sorry, I didnt mean you. It was hypothetical. I'm just talking aloud. You = anyone.

**t-dogg** · 08-06-2012, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Sorry, I didnt mean you. I'm just talking aloud. You = anyone.

LOL, gotcha. Im getting tired and was confused.

**austinite** · 08-06-2012, 11:04 PM

I just send all my dbol to stpete.

**measuretwicecutonce** · 08-06-2012, 11:23 PM

i freakin love dbol . i just feel bomb on it, n i love the back pumps it reminds me to push harder n work harder everyday with every pump. dbol is also good for plateau breaking mid cycle

**measuretwicecutonce** · 08-06-2012, 11:25 PM

its also not as toxic as anadrol .

**Judah** · 08-07-2012, 01:34 AM

Tren is so powerful and magical I think it's a little silly to throw Dbol in there. Just let the tren do what it does best..which is everything lol.

**Judah** · 08-07-2012, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by measuretwicecutonce

do not run dbol with tren . even an enathate ester such as ur tren will be in ur blood plasma levels 24 hours after u pin. dbol aromatizes heavily to estrogen. n estrogen provokes progestrin which the tren will induce. therefore running dbol is asking for more sides from the tren n progesterone.

i like ur test tren ratio : )

Wow, now there's some impressive input. You got me on the research hunt now with that info you just shared.

**Lunk1** · 08-07-2012, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by measuretwicecutonce

do not run dbol with tren . even an enathate ester such as ur tren will be in ur blood plasma levels 24 hours after u pin. dbol aromatizes heavily to estrogen. n estrogen provokes progestrin which the tren will induce. therefore running dbol is asking for more sides from the tren n progesterone.

i like ur test tren ratio : )

Nice...thanks for this info! What about running the dbol for the 1st 4 weeks then starting the tren and dropping the the dbol?? Any thoughts? Perhaps Deca would be a better choice to toss is with the test tren cycle???