HCG with a Test Prop/Tren A/ Winny Lean Bulk Cycle

[KONY]

I'm planning on running
1-10 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-10 Tren A 100mg EOD
6-10 Winny 50mg ED

will be using caber at .5mg 2x a week
and Adex at .5mg EOD

quick question can i pin the tren and test together in 1 pin so 2cc?

and my PCT is nolva Clomid 2 days after last pin

do i need to run hcg is it a must?

[DamageDealer]

post your age, height, weight and bf%. how many cycles have you done? also, you should stop the tren at least 2 weeks before test. imho, hgc is recommended if you're using tren.

[KONY]

its all in my profile and ive done 2 cycles b4 this one

[KONY]

bump anyone?

[boxin23]

BF% and then ill hit you back

[blksavage]

you don't need to take the caber if you control estro levels from the beginning and with that being said have it on hand just incase hcg 2 x a week at 250iu and to answer your question yes you can put into the same pin I have ran this exact cycle before and so far its been my favorite

[blksavage]

I plan on running the same cycle with the cypionate and enanathate esters along with masteron and winny

[blksavage]

boxin 23 is correct though before you pin make sure your bf is low shoot for atleast 12 or 13%

[boxin23]

no AI? you should first like i said let me know your BF%. it is not posted. you need to research an AI like stane. You really need to be on that for sure. Helps a ton trust me.

[boxin23]

boxin 23 is correct though before you pin make sure your bf is low shoot for atleast 12 or 13%

a buddy of mine was 18% and cut for 6 weeks on clen and got down to 12% and it is well worth the wait.

[KONY]

i think im at around 15-16

[boxin23]

if it is a must to run the tren , I would drop the winny.. Just intro 1 compound at a time so you know how it affects you.

Run an AI like stane EOD.

I don't run HCG but never have had that problem. If you do then run it.

[KONY]

thanks i have armidex on hand would that be worse than stane?

[blksavage]

yup I'm waiting I'm still cutting and for some reason its harder then a bitch this time around ugh. ill think twice before letting my self go again. so is aromasin really that much better then arimidex I have always used dex this time around I'm going to use aromasin

[KONY]

yup I'm waiting I'm still cutting and for some reason its harder then a bitch this time around ugh. ill think twice before letting my self go again. so is aromasin really that much better then arimidex I have always used dex this time around I'm going to use aromasin

yeah idk could some clarify which AI would be better for this?

[boxin23]

i like stane.

[0tolerance]

dex is not particularly effective for drugs that tend to be subject to peripheral aromatization, methandrostanolone in particular. often a full 2mg daily of dex will still not stop dbol bloat and cramping.

aromasin on the other hand is very effective peripherally, highly suppressing what is generally E2 conversion.

arimidex is best at E1 suppression (tissue affinity, gonadal, adrenal, etc and because its a competitive inhibitor). it suppress e1 at even the lowest of doses, but takes rather high doses to see significant impact on peripheral aromatase (which if you have "issues" is generally where it is).

general reccomendation is aromasin as a base for most aromatic cycles with letrozole on hand. Generally also reccomend a dopaminergic, at least on hand, cabaser tablets or pramipexole (liquid or tabs). prolactin is as involved in gynecomastia and testosterone suppression as estrogen.

Taken from another website.

[KONY]

1-10 test prop 100mg eod
1-8 tren a 100mg eod
1-4 Tbol 50 mg ed
6-10 winstrol 50mg ed

Caber 2x a week at .5mg
Armidex .5mg eod

Nolva 40 40 20 20
Clomid 100 100 50 50

so far this is what i am working with

[boxin23]

as i stated before....at least i think i did....drop the winstrol ....you DONT need it with your first run with tren . Then you will learn what the sides from tren are like. It is better to intro one compound at a time. Most guys will say dont run the tren on 3rd cycle. But if you are going to you do not need winstrol to further mess with your joints/tendons while gaining huge strength gains on the tren. I think you could be up for injuries if you run like that without being very careful.

[KONY]

i see your point but it comes with a package and is included i'll think about running it after i gauge the sides from the tren its going to be towards the end too

[BigGuy90]

Cycle looks ok to me. All you have to do is watch out for your joints if they are feeling hell towards the end. Goodluck with the cycle bro

[boxin23]

i see your point but it comes with a package and is included i'll think about running it after i gauge the sides from the tren its going to be towards the end too

That is my point....you are subject to injury using the winstrol after the tren . Winstrol can make you susceptible to injury via the tendons. Your muscle strength is going to be more than your tendon strength.....that is all I am saying.

[KONY]

That is my point....you are subject to injury using the winstrol after the tren. Winstrol can make you susceptible to injury via the tendons. Your muscle strength is going to be more than your tendon strength.....that is all I am saying.

ahh i see thanks for clearing it up man not running it anymore maybe just the tbol at the start or thoughts on var at the end?

[KONY]

anyone got some input on how to prevent sides
ive had pubertal gyno i think its just puffy nips though as far back as i can remember (getting surgery next year)

so what would be best to keep it in check as to not flare up anymore on this cycle and maybe even miracously get rid of it haha that probably just wishful thinking

adex/aromasin /letro

and what about dostinex/caber for the tren