Newbie help.

**Jumperboy357** · 03-28-2012, 05:53 AM

I'm looking for info on best gains. I'm currently on my first cycle and got some tren enanthate and test cyp. I've seen only modest gains. My diet is good but have been training at home with my own equipment. 2 things I'm curious about. 1. Is tren and test the right combo for gains? 2. Should I start training at a gym where I have access to more equipment? I already know the answer to number 2 and feel I'm limited at home. Any information on question 1 would be great. Thanks.

**Capebuffalo** · 03-28-2012, 06:00 AM

Tren is not for a first cycle. Stop taking it immediately. What are your stats. What are your goals. Have you ever trained in a gym. How long have you been training?

**sleepingz** · 03-28-2012, 06:09 AM

mate, whats stoppin u fromthe gym? generally wonderin because whatever the problem is im sur it can be sorted out, but it is a total wate not having a good general routine that you can later expand on at gym, unless u got a bowflex lol even they look a bit bunk

definately nee your stats body weight, height, age, bit more about your diet, u will get help here dude either way

**ScotchGuard02** · 03-28-2012, 08:51 AM

Both Test C and Tren E are long esters and will take about 4 to 6 weeks to "kick in". Hang in there you'll see results. Tren is pretty harsh on the system and you'll get shutdown pretty hard. Hope you have good PCT ready. As far as where you train? It's immaterial. How intensely you train is what'll get you results.

**marcus300** · 03-28-2012, 09:09 AM

Stop taking tren it is no way for someone who is training at home and is on his first cycle.
What are your stats?

**swm1972** · 03-28-2012, 12:47 PM

How long have you been on? If you've been running these compounds for several weeks already coming off now would ensure it was all for nothing. For instant if he was on for 5 weeks already the damage to his endo system is already in full swing. Personally I would not stop right as the gains were about to start if that were my situation. I wouldn't run tren for a first cycle either. But here could/should/would doesn't have much relevance, because as it stands he already is on tren and a long ester at that. It will be weeks before it clears anyway. So before you stop I'd look at where you are at (how many weeks in) and then decide a course of action.

Also someone else mention PCT. I hope you got your shit together when it comes to this part of the game. Because if not, you will watch all those gains melt away when you come off.