New cycle

**LEGEND10** · 04-01-2012, 03:43 PM

Hi guys, Id like to hear your views on this cycle im thinking of starting

Week 1-10 Test C 400mgs EW
Week 1-10 Mast 400mgs EW
Week 1-5 D-bol 40mgs ED
Week 7-12 Var 50mgs ED
Week 13-15 take nothing
Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day

Possibly take Nolvadex throughout the course at 10-20mgs ED and ad clomid Through last few weeks ..
Any advice would be great so ill thank you all in advance .
Im 30 yrs old and been training pretty much all my life ex Semi pro Rugby League player retired through injury (knee recon) iv had some winnie viramon and masteron before but would consider this my 1st real crack at a full cycle. Im a pretty big guy naturaly im 6ft 2" and around 18 1/2 stone, although my weight has crept up since my fitness training has reduced. Im looking for some good lean gains and looking at dropping a bit of bodyfat ...training i will be adding cardio to help with bf reduction ... Thanks for reading guys i look forward to ur comments ..

**JDBeretta** · 04-01-2012, 03:53 PM

Cycle looks decent. I'd suggest having an AI (Arimidex ) on hand and taking .25mgs/eod throughout the cycle. If your body fat % is up there, you'll need this.

Maybe look at throwing in HCG to bring your nutz back during the 2 week break until your pct starts.

Also, I've learned that diet and training are more important than the juice when you're on cycle.

**JDBeretta** · 04-01-2012, 03:55 PM

At second look, I'd think about running the test for at least 12 weeks. Maybe even 15 while leaving everything else the same.

Also, you might need a more aggressive pct. look at throwing Clomid into the mix.

**LEGEND10** · 04-01-2012, 04:00 PM

Thanks for comments JD ill take that on board

**LEGEND10** · 04-01-2012, 04:01 PM

JD i agree with you on the test c i will up this to 12 wks

**Sgt. Hartman** · 04-01-2012, 08:02 PM

Like he already said, run an AI like anastrozole or exemestane on cycle and get some clomid or toremifene to run with the tamox for pct.

HCG at about 250iu twice a week will greatly aid in HPTA recovery.

**songdog** · 04-02-2012, 02:40 AM

I agree Test only nova and clomid for pct and run a ai.

**lovbyts** · 04-02-2012, 02:59 AM

I agree with songdog, Test only for a 1st cycle. Yours looks like a good stack for cycle #3+. No need to jump into this and NO, more is not better in fact it's worse in many ways. Keep it simple.

**LEGEND10** · 04-02-2012, 01:13 PM

Thanks for the comments guys ..

**LEGEND10** · 04-02-2012, 01:17 PM

Is everyone agreed that 400mgs test c EW is the right amount ?

**minitourwvu** · 04-02-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I agree with songdog, Test only for a 1st cycle. Yours looks like a good stack for cycle #3+. No need to jump into this and NO, more is not better in fact it's worse in many ways. Keep it simple.

I have to agree...i started my first cycle at 400test e ew...than upped it to 750 ew and i could not get a full work out done the pump would kill me and i couldnt lift set after set, i would stay with one compound and 400 ew is a good dose to start. Let your body adjust to the compound for the first cycle then maybe to a higher dose the second cycle of one compound, and then introduce a second one in the third cycle or so....work slowly up and it will be more effective and safe.