My Roomate did an ANAVAR ONLY cycle and was SUCCESSFUL

**rammyram** · 04-04-2012, 04:52 PM

Last October, my roomate started an Anavar only cycle (Novla as PCT) at 50mg per day for 2 months (8 weeks). He was only 20-years-old (now he's 21) and this was his first cycle and he is an experienced lifter. Prior to his cycle, he weighed 210lbs and his body fat percentage was ~16%. At the end of this cycle his lifts were impressively higher and his vascularity increased noticably and he put on approximately 7lbs of lean mass.

To my surprise, he has kept most of his gains months after the end of his cycle.

Because he is so young, he did not want to harm his HPTA, so he decided to run anavar only because it has a mild effect on HPTA compared to most AAS. He did not take any test because test will certainly shut down your natural test production and is harmful to your HPTA whereas anavar suppresses your natural test production but will not fully shut down test production and has milder effects on HPTA.

Most of you would suggest that running anavar without a test base is a horrible idea, because it will "shut down" your natural test production. However, he told me that he did not suffer any noticable side effects of natural test shut down, such as decrease libido, lethargy, depression, etc. He felt fine while on his cycle. Unfortunately he did not get any blood work done which would have been interesting to view to accurately determine how hs test levels were effected.

Is this normal for an anavar only cycle? I have been a long-time lurker and made an account today to post this, because I have read countless threads where people have asked about anavar only cycles and they get smashed and people convince them that their test production will shut down completely and that they will see zero gains. Has anyone else done an anavar-only cycle and hasexperienced something similar this? Or perhaps the complete opposite?

**markdbg** · 04-04-2012, 05:52 PM

honestly 99% of ppl can run cycles and recover fine, especially with the aid of pct. its the unlucky few that get screwed and screwed hard. its a big price to pay if u do one cycle and gotta inject urself the rest of ur life because of it. its extremely exaggerated that running steroids before 25 will mean ur shut down for life, but u cant hate them for trying to protect ppl from a life time of pins and or low sex drive.

for me when i used to come off the first cycle i ran a pct, during that and after i still had a great sex drive. could preform fine, but i missed/didnt like not having the sex drive that i did on test making me think i lost some. but when i look back i was still preforming the same amount of times as i did before i ever cycled to after i did my cycle. the next time i ran a cycle i didnt bother with pct. sex drive was fine, same as if i pct'd except i saved a few hundred bucks and didnt break out from taking clomid/ have to inject myself daily with hcg for 15 days after

**cyounger100** · 04-04-2012, 08:09 PM

no comment

**gonzo6183** · 04-04-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by markdbg

honestly 99% of ppl can run cycles and recover fine, especially with the aid of pct. its the unlucky few that get screwed and screwed hard. its a big price to pay if u do one cycle and gotta inject urself the rest of ur life because of it. its extremely exaggerated that running steroids before 25 will mean ur shut down for life, but u cant hate them for trying to protect ppl from a life time of pins and or low sex drive.

for me when i used to come off the first cycle i ran a pct, during that and after i still had a great sex drive. could preform fine, but i missed/didnt like not having the sex drive that i did on test making me think i lost some. but when i look back i was still preforming the same amount of times as i did before i ever cycled to after i did my cycle. the next time i ran a cycle i didnt bother with pct. sex drive was fine, same as if i pct'd except i saved a few hundred bucks and didnt break out from taking clomid/ have to inject myself daily with hcg for 15 days after

This is simply not true, I know several people that are f*cked from cycles even though they have run PCT and believe it or not it is probaly closer to 99% of people do NOT recover "fine" sooner after later after they start cycling, lond term damage to some degree is more than likely to occur.

Just look around at most of the guys that have been running cycles for a while now and you will notice the vast majority are on TRT, if you are going to cycle you need to be prepared that long term side effects are going to effect you sooner or later

In Fact this entire post has no place here...

**gixxerboy1** · 04-04-2012, 08:19 PM

everyone is different. I know people that have run that dose of anavar and in 2 weeks couldn't get hard. So can some do it yes. Is it a risk i would take? no.
you can have the 7lbs ill keep having sex.

**Brohim** · 04-04-2012, 08:20 PM

yeah most vet's are on trt. And they know what they are doing. And some are not even 40 yet. So if you cycle you might have to marry a needle at a young age.

**markdbg** · 04-04-2012, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by gonzo6183

This is simply not true, I know several people that are f*cked from cycles even though they have run PCT and believe it or not it is probaly closer to 99% of people do NOT recover "fine" sooner after later after they start cycling, lond term damage to some degree is more than likely to occur.

Just look around at most of the guys that have been running cycles for a while now and you will notice the vast majority are on TRT, if you are going to cycle you need to be prepared that long term side effects are going to effect you sooner or later

In Fact this entire post has no place here...

i dont know of anyone who has been ****ed from cycles, read one or two stories on here ppl that have a hard time recovering, but ive never heard of one being on trt, tho it is very possible, but with modern drugs not talking (novla or clomid) its highly unlikely to face that outcome.

most guys go on trt are around the age of 40, which even if they never cycled there very likely to have low test anyways. tho from everyone i know on trt its not a 100mg shot of test like the doct perscribes. they run a higher dose around 150-200 in some cases 250. and they do this to keep gains/ not have to worry about running a pct because they are just gonna go back on cycle anyways so why waste the time, muscle loss, extra sides and money, imo pct is pointless if u know ur gonna keep cycling. thats why i blast n cruise which now most experienced ppl do.

**gixxerboy1** · 04-04-2012, 08:54 PM

there are plenty of guys on here that started trt in their 20's. I started at 30

**songdog** · 04-04-2012, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by markdbg

honestly 99% of ppl can run cycles and recover fine, especially with the aid of pct. its the unlucky few that get screwed and screwed hard. its a big price to pay if u do one cycle and gotta inject urself the rest of ur life because of it. its extremely exaggerated that running steroids before 25 will mean ur shut down for life, but u cant hate them for trying to protect ppl from a life time of pins and or low sex drive.

for me when i used to come off the first cycle i ran a pct, during that and after i still had a great sex drive. could preform fine, but i missed/didnt like not having the sex drive that i did on test making me think i lost some. but when i look back i was still preforming the same amount of times as i did before i ever cycled to after i did my cycle. the next time i ran a cycle i didnt bother with pct. sex drive was fine, same as if i pct'd except i saved a few hundred bucks and didnt break out from taking clomid/ have to inject myself daily with hcg for 15 days after

Where do you get your info from? The comic strip? How many kids do we get here with problems plenty.This guy is lucky so far but wat is going to happen years down the road?

**MBaraso** · 04-04-2012, 09:26 PM

i'll put my 2 cents in....
run any steriod without test..which i have...not good. run steroids with test.. :-)

yrs later...i go quick...not gonna lie. is it cuz of the juice? i dunno...

**MBaraso** · 04-04-2012, 09:28 PM

ohhh btw...was ur roomate a girl? var only is for girls! who's with me???

**darkcrayz** · 04-04-2012, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

there are plenty of guys on here that started trt in their 20's. I started at 30

gixxer is that your girl? cause sweet baby jesus.

**lovbyts** · 04-05-2012, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by markdbg

i dont know of anyone who has been ****ed from cycles, read one or two stories on here ppl that have a hard time recovering, but ive never heard of one being on trt, tho it is very possible, but with modern drugs not talking (novla or clomid) its highly unlikely to face that outcome.

most guys go on trt are around the age of 40, which even if they never cycled there very likely to have low test anyways. tho from everyone i know on trt its not a 100mg shot of test like the doct perscribes. they run a higher dose around 150-200 in some cases 250. and they do this to keep gains/ not have to worry about running a pct because they are just gonna go back on cycle anyways so why waste the time, muscle loss, extra sides and money, imo pct is pointless if u know ur gonna keep cycling. thats why i blast n cruise which now most experienced ppl do.

You have not been reading enough, I see several almost ever day and remember 90% of guys wont tell anyone not even on a forum.

Originally Posted by darkcrayz

gixxer is that your girl? cause sweet baby jesus.

Yup, lucky man and is girl is not camera shy. lol

**The Titan99** · 04-05-2012, 04:36 AM

Damn!! The conspiracy has been cracked!!! The word is out!!! 20 year old can successfully do oral only cycles with no repercussions at all!!! How are we going to keep all the AAS for ourselves and keep all these young guy's small??? Foiled again!!

Let's see what happens in a couple of months or years. !00% guarantee we haven't heard the last of this one...

The worst part about a thread like this is that there are all sorts of nit wits just waiting to pounce on a post like this and march it around like Obama did with "Yes We Can!" This will lead to a domino effect of young ignorant guy's permanently fvcking themselves up. Tragic really, since the whole board is here to try to prevent this sort of thing from happening....

Nice job butt-plug!!