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    41 year-old and ready to push past the plateau

    First, thank you very much for your help and advice. This is my first post and I appreicate any help I can get!

    Here's the details:

    I've been active in sports my entire life. I'm no stranger to the weight room.
    For the last eighteen months I've been working out five days per week.
    I've seen great gains with this level of activity and dialing in my diet. BUT....I've definelty plateaued. Meanwhile, my lifting buddy has taken the plunge.

    He's the same age, size and build. This is what he started six weeks ago.

    Testerone Enenthate 250 mg/week
    Arimidex 0.5 mg/2xweek
    HCG 25 units/week
    Nondrolone Deconate 200mg/week
    He just completed twelve weeks and looks fantastic. Serious gains in size, strength and cut his body fat from 19-11%
    He said he's never felt better.

    Here's my question: I have twelve weeks of the Testerone Enenthate. I want to take 250mg week. What should I take with this at a MINIMUM? Meaning, I don't have the funds to go the distance that my friend did. If I have the Test, what else is absolutely necessary?

    Again sincere thanks....after the twelve weeks, what is needed for pct? Any re***endations?

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    250mgs/week is very low of a test dose for a cycle. But whatever, it's all good. Test E is also a long ester test that you could afford to run for an extra couple of weeks.

    Okay, that being said, I'd have Arimidex on hand... If you need it, take it EOD starting at .25mgs/EOD. Not like your friend that took it 2x per week. It's half-life is 48hrs and this would cause a bit of fluctuations in estrogen levels.

    For PCT, as this is a mild cycle, do the usual Nolva 40/20/20/20 and Clomid 100/50/50/50.

    If you get testicular atrophy, run HCG at 500iu/week for the last few weeks of cycle.

    Oh, and pct start time is 14 days after last pin.

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    Oh shoot, I forgot to add:

    This is solely my opinion and what I would in that circumstance. I am not a doctor and really don't know nearly as much as quite a few members here...

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    Thank you for helping. great info and insight.

    If 250/week is low, what would be a mid-level dose?

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    if your going to shut down do it right- take 400mg each week. 250mg is maintainence quantity- meaning your body could already be producing around the 250mg naturally- so taking that amount will only shut down natural levels and keep you where you already are. (assumed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keough
    Thank you for helping. great info and insight.

    If 250/week is low, what would be a mid-level dose?
    I would suggest minimum 400/week and would just do 500/week. I understand cost is a concern, but I think you'd be better off to do a dose like this that will yield noticeable results with virtually the same sides as 250/week... 'Sides' meaning natural system shut down. You're likely not going to have any sides and will bounce back nicely, especially with a decent PCT.

    Do you know your current bf?

    Anyways, you will get a good feel for AAS at this dose and how you respond to it. Don't bother stacking until you know how you respond to just test.

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    Sorry guys, just a couple more questions.

    Bf is 16%

    What is AAS?

    So it's OK to just do test all by itself? I thought I had to stack to balance everything out. I don't want testicular atrophy so the HCG seems like a for-sure.

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    AAS stands for Anabolic Androgenic Steroids .

    Yes, Test is great all by itself. It's actually highly recommended that you just use testosterone by itself for a first cycle. If you're thinking about having to balance anything, that's when you use other types of steroids that shut you down, but aren't testosterone. Resulting in loss o energy, sex drive, etc... Test is usually the base in all cycles.

    As for HCG , you might not get testicular atrophy... But it's good to have in case you do. For example, I did on my first cycle. They come back though, so don't freak out too much.

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    Trying to figure out this conversion

    Feeling pretty stupid for not figuring this out....brain freeze.

    I want to do 500 mg per week of T for eight weeks.

    Source says they sell in 10 ml.

    How many ml are needed per week to equal the 500 mg?

    How can I not figure this out??!!

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