Winny Question

**jayral24** · 04-22-2012, 02:33 PM

Hey guys its been awhile since I have been on but here is what im looking at. I know the negativity about Winny only cycles. Just wanted some expert opinions. Im 5'10, 192 pounds been lifting for several years, 38 YOA. I have done 3 cycles of Test and had no problems at all. Im looking at doing GP Stan 10 (Winny) 50 mg a day for 5 weeks and then onto PCT, Nolva. Can you guys give me your advice about this cycle.

**DGHGM** · 04-22-2012, 03:03 PM

I've never done it on it's own but my training partner has. He had to get viagra to get it up for some time. He's so scared of it now he won't even run with test despite the unbelieveable results he got. Run it with prop and exemestane (10-15mg EOD) you shouldn't bloat too much

**Piotr75** · 04-22-2012, 03:17 PM

I'm not any near expert like some members but i'm going to ask you some questions, needed so the other members have the info. I assume you know already about all the side effects of winny.

What is your goal? What is your bf%? Reasons not to use a base of test?

I'm asking because you can't expect to see cosmetic effects if your bf is not under 10% from a winny only cycle. Some strenght gains yes. About 50 mg a day i believe can be a good dose, but for a beginner. You have done already 3 cycles.
Not running a base of test can give you all side effedcts associated with low test, since winny is suppressive of your own test. Plus, i believe there is a good synergie between them.

**jayral24** · 04-22-2012, 03:22 PM

Im at about 15% bf right now, looking to get cut up more, was also thinking of anavar only

**Piotr75** · 04-22-2012, 03:27 PM

Personally i cannot give you advice on these "oral only" cycles and i believe there are not many fans of them around here. Anavar is a different choice from winny, with less sides. Still i doubt its effectivness alone. We wait for the more experienced ones on what they have to say.

**hankdiesel** · 04-22-2012, 04:03 PM

winny will not "cut you up." I did a winny only cycle several years ago. It was a waste. Do another test cycle and post up your diet in the diet section. You will get all cut up if the diet is on point with some cardio. Trust me.

**beenie** · 04-22-2012, 04:11 PM

Winny does really cut me up. That said I usuually do cycles like this:

Week 1-8: 400 MG Deca 500MG Test
week 9-12 400MG Deca, 500MG teswt, 50 MG Winny ED

Winny does a number on my joints but the test makes it a lot better than guys who I have known who do Winny only cycles.

**beenie** · 04-22-2012, 04:14 PM

One other thing, if you have the option, you are much better to inject the Winny. The oral is really tough on the liver and its not quite as effective IMHO.