feeling tired, but not as tired after i took some liquidex.

**leather daddy** · 04-22-2012, 11:36 PM

Took my daily dose of liquidex and felt a little better. still tired and i got 10+ hours of sleep. Maybe overslept. Is this a sign of estrogen related effects? Do i need to up my dose to .5mg from 0.25.

or 0.25 ed as im doing them eod. Or .5m ed?

**JDBeretta** · 04-22-2012, 11:49 PM

I wonder if by chance that you should stop the AI altogether...

We need a vet in here. Lol.

I think that maybe (just maybe) that you're tired because you don't have enough estrogen right now.

You're on cycle, right?

**DGHGM** · 04-22-2012, 11:55 PM

What are you taking, how much how often etc...

**leather daddy** · 04-22-2012, 11:59 PM

yeh im on cycle. Test e and deca , liquidex 0.25mg eod.

**leather daddy** · 04-23-2012, 12:00 AM

im thinking that to, im not experiencing any estrogen related side effcts that im aware of. Maybe besides the tiredness.
no gyno, sen nips emotions etc.

**bob87** · 04-23-2012, 02:08 AM

If you got low est this will slow your gains too

**leather daddy** · 04-23-2012, 02:45 AM

what do u suggest?

**ironbeck** · 04-23-2012, 03:09 AM

What's your dosage of Test and Deca , and where are you injecting? Are you getting proper complex carbs? I had experienced the same problems before.

**Thunderforge** · 04-23-2012, 03:48 AM

Hi LD,
I wouldn't judge anything by one instance. If you feel better after taking the Liquidex continue to do what you are doing and watch it closely. Do you begin to feel fatigued again? Does it get better every time you take the Liquidex? That would be an indication of high estro. One time could be coincidence. It could be anything. Blood work would help determine the reason, but might not tell the tale completely.

I do want to relate my own experience to you. I had a similar situation while taking Aromasin . As my cycle progressed I gradually felt more fatigued. Blood work indicated that my estrogen was acceptable. A little high but within normal range. The fatigue just continued to get worse and worse. In the end I dropped the Aromasin alltogether. Turns out my fatigue was actually related to the Aromasin itself. Not estrogen at all. Changing to Liquidex fixed everything.

**lovbyts** · 04-23-2012, 05:27 AM

How much sleep do you usually get? The few time in live I have had over 8 hrs sleep I am usually tired all day but I wouldn't mind trying that again since it's been years since I had more than 6 hours at one time.

**gixxerboy1** · 04-23-2012, 09:00 AM

werent you taking prami also?
This is why you just stick with test for a first cycle.

**The Bear 79** · 04-23-2012, 02:26 PM

leather daddy, you are a fvcking mess bro, every few days I see a new thread from you asking for help with something you should have known inside out before you ever injected. You're not supposed to learn as you go, that's dangerous & reckless, you're supposed to learn AND THEN go. Your knowledge base is nowhere near adequate to be cycling, no body is expected to know EVERYTHING, but you know almost nothing man. Do yourself a favor & step away from the syringe & go back to research.