General feeling coming off of Test through pct and afterwards...

[canadianbrah]

I'll be doing my first cycle in the near future and was curious about how you guys feel when coming off of test, through pct and afterwards. From what I understand you'll feel pretty good during your cycle..but does it kinda feel like a 'crash', depressing or shitty when you come off? No history of depression here, but was just kinda serious how I would feel the few months after the cycle...and wanted to get my self prepared.

[binsser]

everyone is differant but generaly fine!

[redz]

I don't like the feeling in pct generally but this time I'm still on HGH so I am hoping it will be better. PCT isn't the worst thing ever but it seems worse because you are going from such a great feeling to back to normal.

[canadianbrah]

^thanx...any more insight?

[BreakingFace]

Typically I have a solid week of forcing myself to feel motivated about anything. After that im back to normal.

[bigswoll]

It sucks your gonna know what it feels like to be a woman I'n the rag. Usually your estrogen will be higher then test so u literally are a walking bitch. HATE IT!!!!

[redz]

HCG seems to help alot too.

[Bulkn]

^Yes! I ran hcg throughout this time and recovered much better! Lost some strength, workouts aren't the same but generally feeling good and not shut down at all.

[canadianbrah]

^Yes! I ran hcg throughout this time and recovered much better! Lost some strength, workouts aren't the same but generally feeling good and not shut down at all.

Did you run the HCG during the cycle to? I was planning to use it while on cycle, but stop it during pct, is that not right?

[bodybycookiesandcake]

stop it 4 days before pct

just remember the dose while on and when u stop pinning are different.

I never feel different coming off unless its tren , tren is teh only drug i really feel like a god when using.

[DGHGM]

It helps if you cycle with a taining partner cos you can laugh about all the dumb shit you're having a sook over. Me and my training partner do pretty much the same cycles, start at the same time, finish at the same time and hang shit on each other the whole way through. Last cycle I didn't crash at all though, during that one week when I normally crash, first week of PCT, I took a low dose of D-Bol. This practise is probably frowned upon by some of the member here but it worked.

[bodybycookiesandcake]

i love bridging and using letro and nova for pct, but you're right DGHGM alot of members here dont agree on things such as this.

[DGHGM]

Sweetest I've ever come off. Did 10mgs 5 days, 5mgs 5 days, stopped D-Bol, Nolva and Clomid. Recently found out I was running Nolva/Clomid too low week 2 also but I don't think it made a difference.

[bodybycookiesandcake]

the low dose is more about finding out what will help jump start everything with out allowing teh LH to stay suppressed.

it comes down to each individual.

[DGHGM]

Yeah... the low dosage of D-Bol you mean?

[bodybycookiesandcake]

serious of drugs can be used for this.

it works, but with regular blood work. sometimes it wont work for people depending how tolerant they are through the the slight anabolic dose.

check estradiol levels and blood lipids

[DGHGM]

serious of drugs can be used for this.

it works, but with regular blood work. sometimes it wont work for people depending how tolerant they are through the the slight anabolic dose.

check estradiol levels and blood lipids

Interesting. So don't recommend it for everyone you reckon? I'm incredibly resistent to HPTA shut-down but one of my mates is very very susceptable to it so it would probably be a bad idea for him?

[bodybycookiesandcake]

Yes. It has been done and with successful recovery but it became clear with time from blood test results that it slowed recovery quite significantly, even when the use was quite light and morning-only.

Apparently the hypothalamus and/or pituitary is a lot less "tolerant" of added androgen in the post-cycle condition than when in the natural or fully-recovered state and adding the same small amount of androgen.

[bodybycookiesandcake]

After an ordeal with various PCT methods, I make it very simple and my PCT now consists of low doses of Anavar combined with anastrozole. I learned that I can't stop taking steroids completely before PCT, because my testosterone was nearly 100% suppressed even after such "light" compounds like Anavar, and I always quickly crashed despite using Nolvadex .

I start at 10 mg Anavar/day and 1 mg anastrozole/day, and I gradually decrease the doses. The benefit of such a PCT is that in the ideal case, you won't lose any gains at all, and you can normally train. The "cons" primarily concern the length of PCT: The recovery is really slower. However, the benefits clearly beat the disadvantages.

[bodybycookiesandcake]

0.5 letro is a very good one too, dbol is a bit too potent. just get e2 estradiol levels tested.

[DGHGM]

Okay thanks heaps for this hey. It's interesting stuff. For the moment I'm stuck with D-bol, anavar is eluding me but I'm hoping that will change shortly.

[bodybycookiesandcake]

doont thank me, im a troll. someone will be along shortly saying im giving bad advise again.

[Bulkn]

Did you run the HCG during the cycle to? I was planning to use it while on cycle, but stop it during pct, is that not right?

Yeah i ran it from the start of the cycle up until pct. I think with test its fine to start it at week 4 but since i was running tren aswell i just did it from the beginning.

[jasc]

My first cycle I was scared to come off.. heard all these bad stories n experiences and was expecting hell.
After I came off I felt perfectly fine except a little more tired and achey the first week. Use some hcg on cycle and recovery should be a breeze