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    Sus/trenprop/hgh need advice on cycle

    Sup guys 28 yr old male 6'1 235 20%bf

    Looking for advice on a proper cycle both dosage and length I have the following

    350 mg sus
    700 mg tren /prop
    12 ampules of hgh
    30 ml bac water
    Plenty of arimidex

    Havent done a cycle in 2 yrs. I have been eating properly and exercising for the past 10 weeks w a trainer. How should I set up my cycle?

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    In b4 get your bf down

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    Get your bf down

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerguy2273
    Sup guys 28 yr old male 6'1 235 20%bf

    Looking for advice on a proper cycle both dosage and length I have the following

    350 mg sus
    700 mg tren /prop
    12 ampules of hgh
    30 ml bac water
    Plenty of arimidex

    Havent done a cycle in 2 yrs. I have been eating properly and exercising for the past 10 weeks w a trainer. How should I set up my cycle?
    That isn't enough HGH. I assume that is 120iu's. If a person is seriously considering making a go at HGH I personally feel they should have at least 300 ius on hand as a minimum. HGH is a marathon. Not a sprint.

    You didn't mention what the concentration of yor gear per ml. Unless there is a typo, because I doubt your tren/prop is 700mg/ml. And if 700mg is all you have total? You don't have remotely enough to run it in a cycle anyway. More info needed here.

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    10 weeks training and you think you are ready to cycle? check back in another 52 weeks. Wait, you said you have a trainer? Make that 60 week. lol

    Really though come on, 10 weeks???? Work on diet and continue training for another year please...

    Put your gear in a nice dry cool dark area. Save up your money to buy another 50 vials of HGH (at least 6 months worth) but first make sure you learn a LOT about hgh and know what you have is real since for the last several years 90%+ of hgh out there is fake.

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    store it and wait... Get your bf down below 15%, I reckon 12% is better. Forget your GH unless is pharm grade, as lovbyts said it will be fake. you need to spend some more time traingin and dieting before you start, a lot more time

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo6183
    store it and wait... Get your bf down below 15%, I reckon 12% is better. Forget your GH unless is pharm grade, as lovbyts said it will be fake. you need to spend some more time traingin and dieting before you start, a lot more time
    I keep seeing this 'unless it's human grade it's fake' line around here regarding HGH. You are just as likely to get fake human grade HGH. I have personally been using two different underground sources for HGH for years and have had excellent results. And at 40, you can tell when HGH is doing its magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    I keep seeing this 'unless it's human grade it's fake' line around here regarding HGH. You are just as likely to get fake human grade HGH. I have personally been using two different underground sources for HGH for years and have had excellent results. And at 40, you can tell when HGH is doing its magic.
    your right you can get fake pharm grade. difference is you cant get real ulg gh
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    I keep seeing this 'unless it's human grade it's fake' line around here regarding HGH. You are just as likely to get fake human grade HGH. I have personally been using two different underground sources for HGH for years and have had excellent results. And at 40, you can tell when HGH is doing its magic.
    not saying human grade, saying pharm grade and you know what when its on a prescription and comes from a pharmacy im pretty sure its real...

    Plenty of people THINK they have real gh and quite often they will have 192 still get results and thnk they are getting the full benifit of gh but only once you compare it to "pharmacy gh" only then will you realise the difference.

    We recently found out here in oz that there was huge amounts of gh getting around and selling for a fortune (well into 4 digits per 100iu) people were using it from all different sources thinking it was great, turned out to be nothing more than GHRP-6 so results were there but not what they should be, especially for the insane prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    I keep seeing this 'unless it's human grade it's fake' line around here regarding HGH. You are just as likely to get fake human grade HGH. I have personally been using two different underground sources for HGH for years and have had excellent results. And at 40, you can tell when HGH is doing its magic.
    No, you're not just as likely to get fake pharm grade GH being that ugl "GH" is not real GH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

    your right you can get fake pharm grade. difference is you cant get real ulg gh
    I respectfully disagree. There are two different people on the UG market passing good quality HGH. It's made in Chinese chemical plants most likely. But any place capable of synthesizing all these peptides we have on the market currently is just as well equipped to make HGH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo6183

    not saying human grade, saying pharm grade and you know what when its on a prescription and comes from a pharmacy im pretty sure its real...

    Plenty of people THINK they have real gh and quite often they will have 192 still get results and thnk they are getting the full benifit of gh but only once you compare it to "pharmacy gh" only then will you realise the difference.

    We recently found out here in oz that there was huge amounts of gh getting around and selling for a fortune (well into 4 digits per 100iu) people were using it from all different sources thinking it was great, turned out to be nothing more than GHRP-6 so results were there but not what they should be, especially for the insane prices.
    Wow. That would absolutely suck. There is another board (not sure I can name it so I won't) that has blood serum tests posted. They've exposed a few bunk samples and when compared to the pharma grade you can see few truly stack up. But there were a few non pharma grade that were right there neck in neck with the best the world has to offer. So in the end it pays to do your research and trust/know your source.

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    No Lovbyts most these newbies after 2 weeks are professionals u didn't know that. One on here jus started a month ago can't pin himself and diet is horrible. But he's so good he's giving advice I'n the lab forums and advice on what to run and how long. I give up on trying

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerguy2273 View Post
    Sup guys 28 yr old male 6'1 235 20%bf

    Looking for advice on a proper cycle both dosage and length I have the following

    350 mg sus
    700 mg tren /prop
    12 ampules of hgh
    30 ml bac water
    Plenty of arimidex

    Havent done a cycle in 2 yrs. I have been eating properly and exercising for the past 10 weeks w a trainer. How should I set up my cycle?
    Welcome to the board mate!
    You are no where near ready for steroids . Give it a couple of years of intensity in the gym, proper nutrition, and sustainable growth. Else we will see you in the rehab section asking why you got hurt so quickly. Just telling you straight, like a man. It's how you want it, right?
    Good luck
    ---Roman

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    Go with all test cycle in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_monstah84 View Post
    Go with all test cycle in my opinion
    Dont listen to this crap...

    Youre not ready yet, head to the diet section, tweak the diet and trainging for a few years then re consider.

    @Irish Monstah84 Dont come onto the board and start handing out unwelcome and unknowledgable advice, its not welcome here

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    I respectfully disagree. There are two different people on the UG market passing good quality HGH. It's made in Chinese chemical plants most likely. But any place capable of synthesizing all these peptides we have on the market currently is just as well equipped to make HGH.
    making bio available hgh is alot different then making a peptide.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

    making bio available hgh is alot different then making a peptide.
    HGH is a peptide too. In some cases a few of these peptides are fragments of the HGH chain that when broken into smaller components exhibit some of the same benefits without being illegal because they aren't the entire chain of molecules. I deal with a us supplier for peptides that makes some of the finest peptides available. He told me it is more difficult to make HGH but it doesn't require different equipment or knowledge. Typically the chain is smaller on peptides like GHRP's. Longer chains create more opportunity for something to go wrong in the manufacturing process.

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