Test,Tren, Win T3 & Clen Will it work? I might change up what I was doing.

[Nice Rack]

Ok so im 3 weeks into this cycle first time with Tren and I have ZERO appetite


So what if I changed all this to a cutting cycle? The goal to drop fat as much as I can if you all think there are problems with it tell me and ill change it up

---------Ok these are my stats-----------------
Age:31
BF: 17% (tested today)
Pounds : 245
height: 6.0
Calories : 2500-2300-2100-etc tell goal. ( diet is really clean. and structured for cutting )

--------------Cycle Lay Out: (3rd week now)---------------

WK 1 - 8 Test Enan 600mg/wk (2x mon/thur)
WK 9 - 10 Test Enan 900mg/wk (1 1/2 CC 2x/wk)
WK 1 - 8 Tren Ace 100mg every other day
WK 8 - 12 Winny 50mg/day
WK 8 - 12 Liver pills 3 a day. Spread out, with meals Morning/lunch/dinner.
Taking ADEX one week before the cycle .and one
pill the same day as test injects. About every 4 days.
around 14weeks worth of pills.
^Same with Caber pills.
also I'm taking HCG along the way tell i start PCT.

Ok so for the big question for you all.
At the same time as all this I want to run T3 and clen <--------- is this ok?( clen on and off every 2 weeks.)

With a grip ton of cardio as well.


Just thinking hell if Tren makes me not want to eat I still have plenty of fat to kill off

[djdizzy]

I'm running this same cycle but meant it as a cutter.
250mg Test E
200mg Tren E
50mg Winny
50mg Proviron
t-3 went as high as 100mcg backed down to 60 right now
clen went as high as 100 but had to stop

I actually started with 500mg test but the insomnia and anxiety were getting to me. Dropped to 250mg Test and both sides stopped. I'm 8 weeks in to a 16 week cut. Started at 12.2% BF and 225lbs. I weighted in at 216 today and would guess I'm in the mid 10% BF range. I had to drop the clen because my BP spiked when I was first running the higher test amount. Upwards of 170/80. Its now back down to 145/75. Not the greatest but much better than before. I still run an ECA stack on my off days when I run. The changes I am seeing are sick!

For the second 8 weeks I'm dropping the winny and adding 400mg Mast and 50mg Var. I think you will be very happy with this as a cut cycle!

[Nice Rack]

ok so 3 thoughts
1. The low low calories for cutting wont be wasting my cycle?

2.and its safe ( well its ok LOL ) to run Clen ans T3 with this just to reconfirm.

3. how much cardio should i do a day 20 min? ( i do cardio nights and lift in the AM)

[djdizzy]

How low are you going on calpries? i honestly saw the biggest drop in my last 2 weeks which is weird since nothing has changed. Eating the same,and cardio the same. I would drop 500 or so below maintenance and watch the results you can always adjust once you get a feel for things.

T3 and clen are run together all the time and even better you being on gear so you don't lose much if any muscle. Have you run it before tho? Go slow if not start at 40mcg to asses your tolerance and only move up in 20mcg increments.

I am actually only doing cardio on my off days. run between 4-6 miles 3 days a week. Workout the other 4 days

[Nice Rack]

ya I have ran T3 and clen a few times..
Im not talking about that.. I meant the tren and clen with the win and t3.. more all that together.. is there a formula for it and all that..

I

[Nice Rack]

Bump more thoughts.

[gonebluffn]

At the end of the same cycle running test ,tren ,winstrol ,ran T3 and clen for 2 on 2off for first 8 weeks I didnt like the clen sides I wont use it again other than that its been a great cycle have lost 4 % body fat but I also lost alot of muscle took me 6 weeks of adjusting my diet to get on par but loving results running less test than tren sides arent bad without the clen.

[Nice Rack]

Think I need to up my cals?

[djdizzy]

ya I have ran T3 and clen a few times..
Im not talking about that.. I meant the tren and clen with the win and t3.. more all that together.. is there a formula for it and all that..

I

The only thing I had to watch out for was the BP spike when I was running the higher test amount. Adding clen to the mix was a little silly and I got dizzy at the gym once and stopped. Now that my BP is down I could probably start it again but the results from the tren and winny are making it so I really don't need too. The t3 is gtg. No difference in using it in this cycle than if you were using in a test only cycle. Although I think there is a more synergistic effect with how the tren will help burn fat as well. T3 and winny are fine.

As for the calories you have to play it by ear. You dont want to be so low that you end up burning muscle. Do you know what your maintenance calorie number is? It really helps if you know how much to go above or below that to put on or take off weight.

[JonnyConcrete]

In my opinion your calories are far too low. 2500 calories at 245 lbs must be absolute hell. I'm eating 2200-2400 and I'm 70lbs lighter than you and dieting.

You don't want to lower calories too quickly or you are going to have to go lower and lower to get the desired results.

[Nice Rack]

Ok cool ^.

Does anyone else have thoughts experience with this?

[Nice Rack]

^ bump