blood pressure help

**DeadlyD** · 05-04-2012, 09:54 PM

I'm on week 12 of my test E only cycle with 1 more week to go, checked my BP today because last night felt like my heart was beating harder then normal not fast but hard, my BP was 138/65 with a pulse rate of 65. What are your thoughts?

**Bigshotvictoria** · 05-04-2012, 11:26 PM

Healthy blood pressure is 120/70. It used to be 120/80, but thats now considered hypertensive. Your systolic is a little high, but your diastolic is all good. Any idea what your baseline was before your cycle? One week left you should be good to go. Pulse at 65 is quite healthy. Below 60 (unless you're a serious athlete) and above 80 are problems.

**bill24** · 05-04-2012, 11:51 PM

Unless you took baseline BP several times before cycle, and then several times on or after, you wouldn't get a super accurate picture. For instance, in a single day I once tested as high as 141/75 and as low as 115/70, both without doing much strenuous activity beforehand. The first reading was at a checkup and doc and nurse said not to worry.

**Bonaparte** · 05-05-2012, 08:26 AM

You're fine.

**Times Roman** · 05-05-2012, 10:45 AM

and it's ok to take bp medicine on or off cycle

**DeadlyD** · 05-12-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

and it's ok to take bp medicine on or off cycle

What kind of meds would you recomend TR?

**Natural selection** · 05-12-2012, 07:03 PM

does cialis really help to lower bp? if so at what dose??

**Bonaparte** · 05-12-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Natural selection

does cialis really help to lower bp? if so at what dose??

Yes. It is dose-dependent. Most use around 10mg daily for this purpose, but the studies I've seen that proved its efficacy used 40mg.
I usually use 20mg (I get side effects at 30+ mg).

**The Bear 79** · 05-12-2012, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Yes. It is dose-dependent. Most use around 10mg daily for this purpose, but the studies I've seen that proved its efficacy used 40mg.
I usually use 20mg (I get side effects at 30+ mg).

I'm using 40 mg/ed, 20 mg/am & another 20 mg/pm, my BP stays between 115/60 - 120/65 round the clock. I tried 20 mg/ed, it wasn't enough, I always woke up with high BP, so I upped it to 30 mg/ed, got headaches & still woke up with high BP.

AD · 05-12-2012, 07:50 PM

anybody considered ACE inhibitors or angiotensin receptor blockers? they help preserve kidney function especially for youngsters below 40yrs old.

**Bonaparte** · 05-12-2012, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by asiandude

anybody considered ACE inhibitors or angiotensin receptor blockers? they help preserve kidney function especially for youngsters below 40yrs old.

Actually, yes. I'm going to buy a few and try them out next time I stock up on ancillaries.

AD · 05-12-2012, 08:10 PM

it has been mentioned before in other threads that aspirin lowers blood pressure. does anybody believe this? does anybody know the mechanism of action?

**Bonaparte** · 05-12-2012, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by asiandude

it has been mentioned before in other threads that aspirin lowers blood pressure. does anybody believe this? does anybody know the mechanism of action?

Meh, studies have all sorts of conflicting findings on whether it reduces it. But it doesn't make a big difference, and there is no known mechanism of action (that I can dig up).

**Honkey_Kong** · 05-12-2012, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by asiandude

anybody considered ACE inhibitors or angiotensin receptor blockers? they help preserve kidney function especially for youngsters below 40yrs old.

I started taking lisinopril/hydrochlorothyazide recently. It's been real effective in lowering my BP to 130/80 Before I was on the meds, I was at 175/101. I take a real low dose too. 10mg/12.5mg. My doctor wants to give it another month before he tweaks with the dosage.

AD · 05-12-2012, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Meh, studies have all sorts of conflicting findings on whether it reduces it. But it doesn't make a big difference, and there is no known mechanism of action (that I can dig up).

Ya. I personally don't think aspirin lowers bp at all, and was surprised when someone suggested it on another thread. Maybe now we can have some imput from Mr PharmD?

AD · 05-12-2012, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

I started taking lisinopril/hydrochlorothyazide recently. It's been real effective in lowering my BP to 130/80 Before I was on the meds, I was at 175/101. I take a real low dose too. 10mg/12.5mg. My doctor wants to give it another month before he tweaks with the dosage.

Ya. ACEI and diuretic is a good combo. If you get to keep the thiazide on after next month, you may not need to worry about on-cycle bloat any more!

**Honkey_Kong** · 05-12-2012, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by asiandude

Ya. ACEI and diuretic is a good combo. If you get to keep the thiazide on after next month, you may not need to worry about on-cycle bloat any more!

You have to drink a lot of water on that stuff. Thiazide works pretty ****ing good. My face within a couple days looked really sunken in and i chug water.

**Natural selection** · 05-13-2012, 04:13 AM

just took mine with my home kit, 104/61 on 1 g of test e right now and 35 years old. its kinda low, what causes bp to drop when anabolic ?

**Natural selection** · 05-13-2012, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Yes. It is dose-dependent. Most use around 10mg daily for this purpose, but the studies I've seen that proved its efficacy used 40mg.
I usually use 20mg (I get side effects at 30+ mg).

are they bad sides? or do you mean erections?

**ironbeck** · 05-13-2012, 04:18 AM

A little high.....last week, you are fine.

**decaDump** · 05-13-2012, 05:48 AM

What's with everyone doing these 12+ week cycles???

Question... On your test cycle, at what week did you stop noticing results/gains? I'm just curious because from the cycles I've done, gains become stagnant somewhere during week 7-9.

"It's not what you gain, it's what you maintain." dD

**The Bear 79** · 05-13-2012, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by decaDump

What's with everyone doing these 12+ week cycles???

Question... On your test cycle, at what week did you stop noticing results/gains? I'm just curious because from the cycles I've done, gains become stagnant somewhere during week 7-9.

"It's not what you gain, it's what you maintain." dD

Start your own thread big guy. This DeadlyD's thread about blood pressure, not 12 week cycles & the noticeable secession of gains.

**DeadlyD** · 05-13-2012, 01:06 PM

Very interesting info guys, thanks. I would have never thought of cialas !

**Bonaparte** · 05-13-2012, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Natural selection

are they bad sides? or do you mean erections?

Headache, sinus pressure, blurred vision.

**Ashop** · 05-13-2012, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by DeadlyD

I'm on week 12 of my test E only cycle with 1 more week to go, checked my BP today because last night felt like my heart was beating harder then normal not fast but hard, my BP was 138/65 with a pulse rate of 65. What are your thoughts?

The guidline used to be 130/80 but it was reduced to 120/70 a few years back. I think your in an ok range and I would just
monitor it on a daily basis.