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    hillbill78 is offline Associate Member
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    Arrow good cutting/lean bulk cycle ?

    propionate 700mg a week 200mg eod
    tren acetate 350mg a week 100mg eod
    oral winstrol 50-100mg a day
    clen 80mcg a day 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
    this will be a 6-7 week cycle
    PCT clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20 will also be using arimidex .25mg a day throughout cycle
    my question
    :does test prop need to be rung longer than tren a so the tren clears the system first ?
    goal to add about 8-10lbs solid muscle and try drop for 12% b,f down to 8%
    diet will be extremely strict for example
    :10am 30g whey protein, 6 egg whites, 50g raw oats
    :12am 40g whey protein, 10g bcaa's, banana (post workout)
    :1pm 200g chicken breast, 50g brown basmati rice
    :3pm 180g tuna, 5 heads brocolli
    :5pm 4 egg whites, 25g whey protein
    :7pm 180g tuna 5 heads brocolli
    :10pm 4 egg whites 25g whey protein
    any input or reccomendations would be great
    cheers

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    DanB is offline Banned
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    what are your stats and cycle experience mate?

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    Thats an over abundance of stuff for a 22 yr old..

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    hillbill78 is offline Associate Member
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    23 years old now
    training since i was 18
    just shy of 90kg
    about 12% b,f
    have 2 cycles under my belt first being 100mg prop eod did taper up to 150mg for 3 weeks and 70mg anavar
    second cycle 600mg sustanon , 300mg deca and 100mg anavar
    i have never used tren before and want to try it as i hear brilliant things about it

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    You have to understand that Tren is THE most anabolic of all steroids . That means you'll get good gains. It also means that it will shut down your HPTA hard. I cycled for 4 years, almost 5, before I tried Tren. I finished my PCT about 4 months ago and I'm still trying to recover. I can get an erection but I can't climax. It's really strong stuff. Think about it before you try Tren. Are you sure you want to take such a risk at your young age?

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    hillbill78 is offline Associate Member
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    true but its all about taking risks in this game i find, i recovered ok from deca so hopefully the same will apply for tren

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