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    Bigswoll76 is offline New Member
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    Completely Revamped 10 Week Cycle & PCT

    As a result of all the responses to my first cycle, I decided to revamp it almost entirely. PLEASE chime in with any adjustments you guys think I can make to improve upon it.

    My First 10-Week Cycle:
    Weeks 1-10: 250 mg of Testosterone Enanthate 2x/week (Monday & Thursday)
    Weeks 1-11: 250-500 IU of hCG 2x/week (one day before each steroid injection—Sunday & Wednesday)
    Weeks 1-11: 10-40 mg of Nolvadex every day (only used if estrogenic side effects become apparent)
    Weeks 1-15: 10-25 mg of Aromasin every day or every other day (only used if Nolvadex alone is insufficient)

    Post Cycle Therapy: (how long after my last test injection do I wait until beginning PCT—1, 2, or 3 weeks?)
    Weeks 12-13: 500-1,000 IU of hCG every other day for 15 days (4,000-8,000 IU total)
    Weeks 12-15: 50/50/50/50 of Clomid
    Weeks 12-15: 20/20/20/20 of Nolvadex

    Just for the record, I was hoping to avoid taking an AI such as Aromasin or Arimidex to prevent my HDL from lowering any more (it’s only at a meager 37 mg/dL).

    Lastly, I’m still confused about what to do after my last test injection. Do I take hCG from the start of my cycle till the end of PCT? Or, do I stop hCG entirely after my last test injection? There’s a lot of misleading information out there regarding this issue and I was hoping you guys could clarify this for me.

    Personal stats are as follows:
    Height = 6’3
    Age = 25 (almost 26)
    Weight = 210 pounds
    Body Fat = 13.5% (tested hydrostatically)
    Total Testosterone = 337 ng/dL
    IGF-1 = 466 ng/mL
    Growth Hormone = 1.27 ng/mL
    Diet = Clean meals every 2-3 hours
    Goals = To resume bodybuilding without all the accompanying joint pain—I have chronic rotator cuff tendinosis in both shoulders. Size gains are, therefore, only of secondary importance to me (though still very important—bodybuilding is in my DNA).

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    i think you can start pct 2wks after last pin.

    hcg to start on day1, and continue at same dose even in the 2 wks while waiting for pct. stop hcg when you start pct.

    AI should be run throughout cycle, but if you really don't want to, then keep it as your first-line when you experience estro sides. keep nolva as second line.

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    Start pct 18 days after last pin of sus and i would up ur pct to
    nolva 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 100/100/50/50

    And i agree with asiandude on the hcg

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    Opps my bad i thought u wer runnin sus lol. Must b trippin. 12 days then for test e im pretty sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    i think you can start pct 2wks after last pin.

    hcg to start on day1, and continue at same dose even in the 2 wks while waiting for pct. stop hcg when you start pct.

    AI should be run throughout cycle, but if you really don't want to, then keep it as your first-line when you experience estro sides. keep nolva as second line.
    This^. Test E 14 days after last pin start pct. IMO run clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20

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    What exactly is in your clean meals? macros/cals?

    If you are going to spend 10 weeks in a highly anabolic state wouldn't it make sense to ensure your diet would allow for maximum gains?

    I could almost guarantee whatever your eating has too many carbs and not enough protein if you dont know what your actually consuming.

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