first test e cycle need advice

**canadianjack** · 05-21-2012, 05:06 PM

So I have done d balls in the past with deca , this cycle I am running test e 300 and npp 100, I think i am just going to run 300 ml of test a week and 100ml eod of npp. I am 6 foot and 195 lbs my last cycle was well over a year ago.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 05-21-2012, 05:41 PM

You ran only dbol and deca together? No test with it? Most recommended first cycles with test are 500mg/wk. I'm not to familar with NPP but i'm sure some other members will have some insight.

How old are you and how long have you been training?

**canadianjack** · 05-21-2012, 06:00 PM

ya, I was nervous about doing test as an injection at first but with more research and knowing more about pct I am more comfortable with it now. I did pack on about 20 pounds with that stack tho. I am getting tired of all the water you hold with deca tho, thats part of the reason I switched to npp. I am 28 and have been working out off and on since I was in high school. Have been a bit more serious about it tho the last couple of years. I do have enough test to run 600mg/wk just didn't know if it would be a waste because it is my first time on it.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 05-21-2012, 06:18 PM

Was your deca not an injection?

What is your planned PCT? and do you have an AI on hand? If you do a little more research and post a proposed cycle on what you're running you can start from there.

**canadianjack** · 05-21-2012, 06:30 PM

ya the deca was an injection, it wasn't the needle I was worried about but the side affects seem to have greater odds with test as an injection. I have nolvadex and clomid for my pct no ai tho, I am only going to do a 10 week cycle.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 05-21-2012, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by canadianjack

ya the deca was an injection, it wasn't the needle I was worried about but the side affects seem to have greater odds with test as an injection. I have nolvadex and clomid for my pct no ai tho, I am only going to do a 10 week cycle.

Well i'm no expert with deca but I believe it can have worse sides then test e alone.

What is your planned dosage for PCT? I would get an AI before you start your cycle, regardless if it's 10 weeks.

Do some more research. Go check out the PCT section and read up on AI's as well, there's stickys with tons of information you can gather. 500mg/wk of Test E alone is a good starting point, no need for more then that with your first test run.

**canadianjack** · 05-21-2012, 06:51 PM

k thanks the nolva I am going to run for 2 weeks first week 40 then second 20 and the clomid i think i am going to do 50 for 4 weeks and start the pct about 2 and half weeks after last pin, what do you think?

**Americanman10** · 05-21-2012, 07:02 PM

I would run nolva for 4 weeks do 40/40/20/20 then clomid I would do for 4 weeks also but instead of 50 every week do this 100/50/50/50

**canadianjack** · 05-21-2012, 07:05 PM

the AI would you take to keep the estrogen levels under control or for gyno?

**Americanman10** · 05-21-2012, 07:30 PM

Ai's prevent the conversion of androgens to estrogen in the body so I believe it will help with gyno.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 05-21-2012, 07:55 PM

Test E armotizes and without an AI you will have elevated estrogen levels and set yourself up for gyno.

Test E PCT is 14 days after last pin. 2 weeks after is fine to start PCT.