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06-11-2012, 07:17 PM #1
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Micro cycling??
So i am new to this.. i just posted some info in the new members section.. but here is the run down. I am 35 150lbs 5'6 , train 6 days a week anyway before all this.
I used to be a competitive athlete. Age and life caught up with me, I still train all the time but now for fun. I was always about being lean now i want a build.. So i have started my first cycle. In my sport i have met and hang out with tons of people on the juice. But I dont know how much bro science to believe. I have been reading tons on here..
One of my good friends convinced me to try micro cycling it.
I am taking sustanon 300 , 1 shot per week. For 3 weeks. then off for 3 weeks.
What is your opinion on this?
I am in no hurry to get monster huge.. i am just trying to be safe. But i dont want to waste my time either.
his idea is that cause its such a low dose and for a short period the side effects would be very minimal.
Anyway.. what are your thoughts? bad? good?
This is week 3, i have already noticed some pretty substantial gains, for me.. But i dont feel like i am ready to stop taking it for 3 weeks.
But i think that is part of the minimal side effects, that after 3 months you would go through some depression when you come off.. where this way you only on it for a short time..
Anyway.. i dunno.. thanks for the help.Last edited by canada812; 06-11-2012 at 07:21 PM.
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06-11-2012, 07:29 PM #2
If you were gonna do a "micro cycle" you would want to run it with a very quick acting form of Testosterone , IE Test Prop. This would require daily pinning but be out of your system in a few days not weeks as will be the case with the long estered portions of sustanon .
If you have only done one shot I would suggest you stop right now and then take the time to read about cycles and PCT...Do you know what a PCT is right? and do you have the chems already?
Then when you have all the information you need to safely run either a normal or "microcycle" you can buy the appropriate test and PCT chems before starting and your results will be a lot better.
PS I like the idea of short cycles a LOT, for someone who is new and cycling ( not using TRT )
FFM
PS, Times is of course correct on base being even quicker but it requires pinning at least twice a day to be effective so I would just use Prop instead on a three week micro-cycle.Last edited by Far from massive; 06-11-2012 at 07:33 PM. Reason: Base explaination
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06-11-2012, 07:30 PM #3
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we're micro-cycling now? is that the newest fad? is that what's in? lol
good day eh? welcome to the board
to answer your question...in my humblest of humble opinions, i would not micro-cycle. if i were you, i would read up on newbie cycles and familiarize yourself with the standard safe protocols for a beginner.
start here..
Educational Threads
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...S#.TzgpVFF3k34
you will quickly see that a 10-12 wk cycle with testosterone only will be the ticket. along with an AI and hcg you're good to go, and should see some amazing results. make sure your diet is in check - post it in the Nutritional section and the good folks there will provide invaluable assistance if you feel you need it..most do.
once again, welcome and good luck.
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06-11-2012, 07:30 PM #4
I believe that a three week cycle with sust is a total waste. why? sust has long esthers in it like c and e, (and some short esthers like P in there. but the P is in the minority) which don't even begin to kick in until around 4 weeks.
if you were to try something like this, you would either need suspension or p. suspension has a half life measured in hours and kicks in, in a few days. p you pin daily and kicks in in a week or so.
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06-11-2012, 07:33 PM #5
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i do agree with FFM on the short cycle but disagree about prop for first cycles - too much pinning and the individual usually wants to go longer once results appear. again, just my opinion..
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06-11-2012, 10:52 PM #6
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My friend has had some great results doing it this way..
Why would you not suggest sustanon
I have pinned 3 times, once a week.... so from what i have read i have to finish it correct
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06-11-2012, 11:00 PM #7
I'll copy and paste why from the thread above you that I wrote....
"I believe that a three week cycle with sust is a total waste. why? sust has long esthers in it like c and e, (and some short esthers like P in there. but the P is in the minority) which don't even begin to kick in until around 4 weeks."
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06-12-2012, 08:02 AM #8
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yeah i read everything.. but now i am at the point where i dont know what to do? obviously my friend was mis informed.
Its been 3 weeks.
do i scrap the 3 weeks on 3 weeks off?
Do i continue for the whole 12 straight?
As for PCT i have access to nolva and clomid.
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06-12-2012, 08:17 AM #9
yes continue till week ten or twelve! do you have a pct planned?
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06-12-2012, 08:21 AM #10
actually stop your cycle, and start nolva and clomid 18 days after last shot
nolva- 40/20/20/20
clomid- 50/50/50/50
do more research and plan a proper cycle
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06-12-2012, 08:37 AM #11
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You can continue cycle but make an adjustment. Either continue w/your 300mgs per week split up between 2 shots per week. IE:150mgs on monday and 150mgs on thursday. Or, use 2 cc's per week, split up as mentioned, for a total of 600mgs per week. Do this for 12 weeks for best results.
And nolva/clomid for PCT. I also recommend an AI and HCG during cycle.
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06-12-2012, 09:00 PM #12
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Well i am going to use the advice of stpete.
Since i have it i may aswell finish this cycle. 12 weeks. 2 shots a week. Undecided whether to split 1 cc or 2 cc's split.. hmm.. but thanks for the advice.
And my PCT plan is the same as most say..
Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day
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06-12-2012, 09:23 PM #13
start your pct 18 days after you last injection
i would also get an ai to use on the cycleIf people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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06-13-2012, 08:13 AM #14
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I see there is alot of different ai's , What do you recommend and why?
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