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    Is this a good cycle/combo?

    This cycle is not for me, its for my father he wants me to ask. He's a 38 year old, 5'8 and 195 lb not natty. This is his third cycle.

    EQ
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    Sus250
    Deca

    Is this a good cycle, to much or what? Suggestion, tips and advice are welcomed.
    Hope this is the right section.

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    need dosages
    no reason to use test e and sust. They are both test
    eq is a waste of $$ and time

    What are his goals
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Sust 250
    test e 200 or 250 not sure
    eq 200
    deca 200

    His goals are to gain some more size, get hard and get cut or at least drop body fat by 5% percent since he's sitting at 20% BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohlookzero View Post
    Sust 250
    test e 200 or 250 not sure
    eq 200
    deca 200

    His goals are to gain some more size, get hard and get cut or at least drop body fat by 5% percent since he's sitting at 20% BF.
    he should join the board along with the rest of us old bulls. no shame in asking his own questions

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    btw... welcome to the board mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    he should join the board along with the rest of us old bulls. no shame in asking his own questions
    He's not into going on forums, he wants me to ask for him just because he won't use a forum, know how to use it or would be active on it and its easier for him just to have me asking. He's sitting beside me, I hope no one thinks this is for me like in another forum.

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    Wow, your dad is young! Like gix said, either sus or test, not both. But these dosages are mg/ML Im guessing, question is how much is he planning on taking and for how long.

    And yes, dad should join the forum.

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    He said a 10 week cycle, and to get inject test twice a week he needs sus and test, it would be same as getting another bottle of test but he doesn't enough for another bottle of test. Words straight from him.

    He's asking about if t4, eq and deca .

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    yeah, jjust noticed he's 38. really not even an old bull yet.

    ask him what is his diet like?

    has he tried deca before? know the sides?

    what is his pct going to be?

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    Well since your 21 I hope your not using your dad to get info. If he is 20 % bf he needs to drop to at least 15 % or lower or runs a risk of gyno. Run an ai. I mean tell him to run an ai. 19 yrs old when he had you wow.

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    He's done deca before, a high protein diet he said.

    As for pct he said clomid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Well since your 21 I hope your not using your dad to get info. If he is 20 % bf he needs to drop to at least 15 % or lower or runs a risk of gyno. Run an ai. I mean tell him to run an ai. 19 yrs old when he had you wow.
    No no , I wouldn't start with this aas and especially running all that at my age. And yes he had at the end of high school, I ruined his baseball college career and going to college. >.<
    Last edited by ohlookzero; 06-11-2012 at 07:46 PM.

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    Deca is not easy drug to recover from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Well since your 21 I hope your not using your dad to get info. If he is 20 % bf he needs to drop to at least 15 % or lower or runs a risk of gyno. Run an ai. I mean tell him to run an ai. 19 yrs old when he had you wow.
    cape got it. Def. drop BF % before running anymore AAS.

    I think he was 17 when he had him. Man I feel old.

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    I am older than his dad. He has a 21 yr old son. I have a 15 month old. I feel old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I am older than his dad. He has a 21 yr old son. I have a 15 month old. I feel old
    Congrats on the kid. I felt old at 31 when I walked into a longevity club for TRT for the 1st time. Man that was depressing.

    edit: oops, got off topic! Back to you OP!

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    He wants to know if its a good cycle or not? If not then whats a good combination to add a little size and get more cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Wow, your dad is young! Like gix said, either sus or test, not both. But these dosages are mg/ML Im guessing, question is how much is he planning on taking and for how long.

    And yes, dad should join the forum.
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    Ohlookzero, BF is kind of high. AAS will not do much if anything over layers of fat.

    Best thing to do is to get Cardio dialed in and fix the diet. Post in the nutri section for diet critique and you will be surprised what he can accomplish naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Ohlookzero, BF is kind of high. AAS will not do much if anything over layers of fat.

    Best thing to do is to get Cardio dialed in and fix the diet. Post in the nutri section for diet critique and you will be surprised what he can accomplish naturally.
    Yes I know, I told him that what you said about dropping the body fat he just wants to know if the cycle is good if not then what would be? He has the money and wants to get it before he spends it even if its waiting there. >.<

    His body fat on this thing at the gym you hold on to said 20% thats why thats what we are using but he doesn't look anything like 20 percent, I'm going to upload a picture of him soon so you can judge.
    Last edited by ohlookzero; 06-11-2012 at 08:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohlookzero View Post
    Yes I know, I told him that what you said about dropping the body fat he just wants to know if the cycle is good if not then what would be? He has the money and wants to get it before he spends it even if its waiting there. >.<
    No offense, but you're not listening. The cycle proposed above is not good. Cycling period right now is not good, so recommending a cycle at this stage is only going to throw your dads money away. I would'nt want to throw money away and I would hope that your dad wouldn't either.

    If your dad is stuck on doing something, maybe consider Clen for 2 weeks and see how that goes. Just make sure he doesn't have anxiety. Refer him to this profile: http://www.steroid.com/Clen.php

    Then visit this thread for details: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.T9akHbBYseU

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    My dad is a bit hardheaded, I am listening but he isn't he just wants to know if its a good cycle or what would you recommend him as a cycle, but he definitely isn't 20% here is a picture to judge for yourself. its attached, I would say the thing we used at the gym is very inaccurate.

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    Thats no 20! What is he trying to accomplish with AAS exactly?

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    He wants to gain a little more size, obtain that hard look/feeling and get more cut up then what he currently is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohlookzero View Post
    He wants to gain a little more size, obtain that hard look/feeling and get more cut up then what he currently is.
    Ask him what his previous cycles were exactly and how long ago.

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    Last summer
    Cyp 400 mg
    Deca 200 mg
    EQ 200 mg

    beginning of the year

    Tren 200 mg
    Masteron 200 mg

    And before was about 6 years
    Deca 200mg
    and Sust 200 mg

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    I still think you should see the nutri forum. Remember that you can use all the AAS in the world, if your diet isnt right, you wont see results. You cut with diet, not juice.

    Test E 500 EW (pinned mon, thur) week 1-12
    Anavar - 60mg ED (2 doses) week 7-12

    Need an AI during cycle and PCT after

    good luck

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    Yes thats why his last cycle did not work the one with tren , he was using to little to make it last and his diet wasn't intact. After that and the money he wasted it took that to get his diet intact. :P

    I will show him once he's out the bathroom the cycle you advised!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohlookzero View Post
    Yes thats why his last cycle did not work the one with tren , he was using to little to make it last and his diet wasn't intact. After that and the money he wasted it took that to get his diet intact. :P

    I will show him once he's out the bathroom the cycle you advised!
    Tell him to turn the fan on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Tell him to turn the fan on!
    I would if there was a fan in there. >.<

    Would the test e give him that little size gains he's looking for? I would ask him if he wasn't still there. I'm a noob and don't know much to anything about aas. >.<

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