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    is this a good cycle?

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    Hi guys does anyone know if this is a good cycle?

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    not really. is this your first cycle? any more details about yourself?

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    Terrible. With all that tapering your cycle belongs in 1973.

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    Yeh its my first cycle, iv been training for 4 years 5'9 77kg, what do you think needs to be changed in the cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graco
    Yeh its my first cycle, iv been training for 4 years 5'9 77kg, what do you think needs to be changed in the cycle?
    How old are you??
    I would have atleast 6yrs (preferably atleast 8yrs) of training under my belt before cycling if I was you!

    One thing I'll say about your cycle is that you shouldn't taper, either the test or dbol ! Do a little more research

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    ok thanks, im 26, why not taper? from all the reaserch iv done people never seem to take test e alone, it always seems to be with either decker or dbol ?

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    tapering up for 1wk doesn't increase your gains, but may worsen any sides. tapering down 1wk doesn't help your recovery, but definitely limit your gains that wk.

    the test e duration is too short, the dbol is too long. pct is too weak, and you're short of AI and HCG .

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    Tapering is an old school mentality, out dated.

    Ta good to do your first few cycles with test to see how your body responds to it ( side effects) and you will have many opportunities to add other gear to your cycles when you have a better understanding of your body and what happeneds to it on cycle.

    Test alone you will see amazing results with a proper diet and training regimen. No need to stack anything else.

    Although jump starting a long ester test cycle with 4 weeks of dbol is something I do.... When its winter season.

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    So aslong as i don't taper and less dbol is the pct ok? Thanks everyone for your help

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    ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    tapering up for 1wk doesn't increase your gains, but may worsen any sides. tapering down 1wk doesn't help your recovery, but definitely limit your gains that wk.

    the test e duration is too short, the dbol is too long. pct is too weak, and you're short of AI and HCG.
    sorry for repeating myself

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    Your first cycle should look like

    Week 1-12 test e 250x a week
    Week 1-12 (some say 4-12) hcg 250x a week

    Using a ai through the entire cycle but not on post cycle

    Pct should be clomid and nolvedex waiting two weeks after last test injection then running pct for four weeks

    Sorry if that comes off confusing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graco View Post
    So aslong as i don't taper and less dbol is the pct ok? Thanks everyone for your help
    No, PCT is weak. Nolva and Clomid should be ran. You can get more info in the PCT Section. And you'll be fine just running test and leaving the d-bol for another time.

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    Ok thanks mate just one last question, do you believe that the proviron should still be used?

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    no need for proviron
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Why's that?

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    because it not needed. Why do you think it is?
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Because it enhances the steroid you take with it therefore giving you more gains by the end result

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    you sound young

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    Thanks

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