Post injection pain: How has it affected your life?

[PowerHouse1900]

Ive been fortunate enough to have a job where I work from home primarily. So getting a debilitating case of the PIP's is no biggy. However, Im taking a second job this summer to get ahead with some bills. It's labor intensive. I know for a fact that I would have missed work about 10-12 times based on my last cycle because the gear gave me terrible quad and glute pip. As a precaution Im injecting 1ml at a time even if it means doing 4 injections on my dosing days.

Has anyone ever missed work or had their plans really f-cked by pip?

[Atomini]

I remember having some pretty bad pain once but I still pushed through it. At this point, I don't really get pain any more, and I use short-esters only. That means 4x a week pinning at least. And on my cycles i'm doing 2ml shots at least, and have done 3ml before in one site.

The worst pain I can remember was only in my first cycle of short esters I ever did, and even then it didn't happen after the first week or 2. I was never completely out of commission from it though.

Oh, and I have never done and will never do quads for this exact reason. Only non-invasive muscles for me: gluteal and ventrogluteal. Not even shoulders! Done shoulders once before, will never do em again.

[castiron]

please explain invasive vs non invasive Atomini

[Atomini]

Invasive, meaning a muscle used as an injection site that is heavily involved in daily activity. Perfect examples are quads and shoulders. How many of us here, if we are going to inject shoulders, would need to structure our shots so that it doesn't land a day before or ON a shoulder workout day? Or a day where you might need to be lifting stuff overhead? Same thing with quads and training legs. Heck, your quads are used for moving your legs and standing up. I don't even know what it's like to have injection site pain in quads because i've never ever shot there but I can sure imagine what it might be like! No thanks!

Sites like dorsogluteal (outer upper ass cheek) and ventrogluteal (side of your ass, a couple inches above your trochanter) are not as involved in daily activity as quads or shoulders. They are involved, but not to as much of a degree. And i've found that pinning in ventrogluteal area is almost 100% non-invasive to any daily movement. Dorsogluteal might give you SOME issues on a leg workout or something, but not as bad as quads. I've been able to push through some worse site injection pain in the glutes no problem on a leg day doing squats.

[Noles12]

If you are having that high of a level of PIP then I would question your gears sterility.

I have experienced PIP that can be very nagging but never to the point where I could not perform an activity. Sure it may hurt during something such as a leg workout but it was never bad enough to keep me from doing something all together

[Juice Authority]

If you are having that high of a level of PIP then I would question your gears sterility.

I have experienced PIP that can be very nagging but never to the point where I could not perform an activity. Sure it may hurt during something such as a leg workout but it was never bad enough to keep me from doing something all together

Not only that but shit that causes "debilitating" pain goes straight to the trash. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. No gear should cause that much pain UNLESS it's poorly made.

[Flacco]

What kind of juice are you using? I do hard labor. I only Pin Prop in my glutes and sholders. One batch I got literally felt like I got beat with a bat after I shot it. Even still, never hurts to the point where I couldn't get the job done. If It does, you should away from using compounds that are known to hurt...problem solved.

[Noles12]

Not only that but shit that causes "debilitating" pain goes straight to the trash. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. No gear should cause that much pain UNLESS it's poorly made.

Exactly. I can pin prop daily and have no where near those kind of issues

[PowerHouse1900]

The gear is from a very reputable UGL. My pip issues are more than gear related. A great injection is one that only mildly hurts. A horrible injection is one that leaves me bed ridden. I seem to be very intolerant to injections of any kind. It's been this way since childhood.

[Noles12]

You could possibly have an allergy to a solvent in the gear. Do you know if it is EO based?

[PowerHouse1900]

You could possibly have an allergy to a solvent in the gear. Do you know if it is EO based?

Interesting. I do believe it has EO.

[Noles12]

Have you ever run compounds containing EO before?

[DanB]

Ive been fortunate enough to have a job where I work from home primarily. So getting a debilitating case of the PIP's is no biggy. However, Im taking a second job this summer to get ahead with some bills. It's labor intensive. I know for a fact that I would have missed work about 10-12 times based on my last cycle because the gear gave me terrible quad and glute pip. As a precaution Im injecting 1ml at a time even if it means doing 4 injections on my dosing days.

Has anyone ever missed work or had their plans really f-cked by pip?

Just to add, not disagreeing with the fact that you could have a problem with a solvent or carrier in the gear, but try doing pec and delt injections, both painless and alot easier if you do happen to get PIP from the virgin muscle since it wont effect your mobility too badly, inject very slowly 30secs per ml at a minimum and even heat the gear before you pin it to help it flow, massage the site gently afterwards and see if it helps

And what gauge are you using? A 25g 1'' is fine for pecs and delts if your currently using a larger gauge pin

[Atomini]

If i'm not mistaken, won't a high level of BA in the gear cause increased PIP?