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    Traveling outside the U.S. to get AS

    Hi. I am a new member with a simple question:

    1. Where, and how frequently, should I travel outside the U.S. to obtain and use AS without violating U.S. law?

    More background information:

    I am a skinny guy (about 140 pounds). A friend provided me with regular AS over the last year, and I got my weight up to 160. I looked much better. My friend is now in state prison (unrelated to AS). But I stopped working out regularly and stopped using AS.

    My father is a commercial airline pilot, so I can fly for basically free. I would like to travel to Mexico / Caribbean or other countries to obtain AS legally there and use them. However, I am not sure how frequently I would have to do this, what I should take, and what I need to do (stacking, etc.) to prevent side effects. Will I be able to go once a month? Twice a month? Once every three months? I don't know.

    I am not looking to do anything aggressive. I just would like to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle and increase my appetite. If that just involves taking normal testosterone , great. But I don't know what supplements/frequency to use to prevent side effects - I also don't know where to find books or PDFs to explain these things to me.

    Any advice is appreciated. Please feel free to private message me if that is preferable.

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    Welcome...The best thing you can do is start taking B vitamins. B-6, B-12 being the best ones. Then, start eating right. And unless you want to be like your friend, in prison, i'd just go to the gym and stay out of trouble.

    Educate yourself....Read all the Stickies and check out the Educational Forum.

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    I agree with stpete. Time to read up. Traveling abroad makes no sense. You'd have to do that a few times or more a week for most cycles and that just seems ridiculous.

    Forget about traveling and trying to bring it back with you too unless the idea of prison appeals to you.

    There are no fast answers or quick solutions. Body building and AASs are a lifestyle commitment, not a hobby. You have to be old enough and wise enough to take the journey friend.

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    I agree with the above post. AAS are not what you need, Diet is. If you are 140 lbs and you have already done a cycle you have no clue how to eat/diet properly unless you are under 5'.

    Is it much fun puffing up a little then deflating? That is all due to diet. You need to get up to a good, healthy near max genetic weight for your height before thinking about using any aas. You have a long way to go. Count your blessing if you have not experienced any negative side effect but dont keep tempting fate. Learn to do it right. Yes there are a lot of other sites and people who will tell you what you want to hear and sell you what you are looking for if you look hard enough but they arent helping you at all and only want your $$$.

    You can find what you want outside of the us but you can find everything you need at home. Travel outside of the US should be more for pleasure, self awareness, enlightenment and not searching for aas. You are lucky to be in the situation you are with your dad and able to travel, dont screw it up and end up like your friend.

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    My father is a commercial airline pilot, so I can fly for basically free. I would like to travel to Mexico / Caribbean or other countries to obtain AS legally there and use them. However, I am not sure how frequently I would have to do this, what I should take, and what I need to do (stacking, etc.) to prevent side effects . Will I be able to go once a month? Twice a month? Once every three months? I don't know.
    Complete suicide if you plan on bringing them back through homeland security. Unless you purchase a sterilized perfume bottle and fill it up while your in a place that sells AAS over the counter. Just do not put it in with your carry on or you risk them making you throw it out. By the way im NOT SUGGESTING you do this. As far as stacking and preventing side effects, plenty of reading you can do on here to educate yourself on virtually every subject. Although much of this game is going to depend on how the individual responds to certain circumstances. Any way you slice and dice it, traveling to a locations strictly to pick up product is costly and stupid, unless you plan on moving to say Phuket, Thailand and extending your visa to say a year. Nice vacation There are plenty of reputable sites where you could derive everything you need and prevent you from ending up serving some time or spending a small fortune on an attorney.

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    All you need is food and exercise man.

    As far as your question it can easily be answered by doing a Google search.

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    Let me put it this way, what is the minimum frequency I would have to travel to do a moderate amount of AAS outside of the U.S. without breaking laws.

    1 week?
    1 month?
    3 months?

    If I can to track down an exotic kind of AS to use with a low frequency, I'm willing to do that.

    To address some concerns above:

    1. no I am not thinking of taking anything back into the U.S. That is suicide, and I've made it clear that I don't want to break any laws.
    2. The cost of travel depends on the frequency - hence my question above. I can easily afford to travel once a month out of the country. Remember, I fly for free. The trips would cost roughly $200-$500 a month in expenses, depending on how I do. I would also be obtaining the benefits of regular international travel (beaches, culture, night life, etc.). And it is well within my budget - I'm a moderately successful professional.

    So that leaves me with my ultimate question: what is the minimum frequency?

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    Youre not getting it mate, AAS wont do anything for you, you need food and exercise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kip1981 View Post
    Let me put it this way, what is the minimum frequency I would have to travel to do a moderate amount of AAS outside of the U.S. without breaking laws.

    1 week?
    1 month?
    3 months?

    If I can to track down an exotic kind of AS to use with a low frequency, I'm willing to do that.

    To address some concerns above:

    1. no I am not thinking of taking anything back into the U.S. That is suicide, and I've made it clear that I don't want to break any laws.
    2. The cost of travel depends on the frequency - hence my question above. I can easily afford to travel once a month out of the country. Remember, I fly for free. The trips would cost roughly $200-$500 a month in expenses, depending on how I do. I would also be obtaining the benefits of regular international travel (beaches, culture, night life, etc.). And it is well within my budget - I'm a moderately successful professional.

    So that leaves me with my ultimate question: what is the minimum frequency?
    Most cycles require at least twice weekly injection, at the very minimum. Daily even. Your idea is no good. Also you are not listening, your weight shows that you are not eating correctly, you would have a lot more muscle mass if you did. You need to go to the diet section, and stop with this stupid idea, it won't work.

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    This is a desperate idea and it shows that you are willing to take some extreme measures to get aas when you clearly aren't ready for it. The answer to your question is answered above. At the minimum you would be traveling weekly for injections and you would have uneven test levels.

    Would you have time to have a proper diet, sleep, and training regimen while traveling out of the country once a week and working full time (assuming a moderate professional does)? Your current weight is a clear indicator that you haven't been training long enough, nor have you maxed out your natural potential.

    Best advice to you is to hang around here for a while and get your diet and training in check. Work your ass off and learn as much as you can and you will be in a much better place when you do start taking steroids (again).

    Just out of curiosity, what was your first cycle and what did your pct look like?

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    dont do that. bad idea. twice weekly is minimum. if you havent been working out lately its time to start.

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    You need to get educated kid. The frequency depends on the ester if you even know what that is. Introduce yourself to Google

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    After you learn how to eat/diet properly to gain some weight naturally up to at least 185 and been training for a SOLID 2+ years if your are around 5' 8" I would then say you need to go and stay on vacation a minimum of 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gi812Many View Post
    Complete suicide if you plan on bringing them back through homeland security. Unless you purchase a sterilized perfume bottle and fill it up while your in a place that sells AAS over the counter. Just do not put it in with your carry on or you risk them making you throw it out. By the way im NOT SUGGESTING you do this. As far as stacking and preventing side effects, plenty of reading you can do on here to educate yourself on virtually every subject. Although much of this game is going to depend on how the individual responds to certain circumstances. Any way you slice and dice it, traveling to a locations strictly to pick up product is costly and stupid, unless you plan on moving to say Phuket, Thailand and extending your visa to say a year. Nice vacation There are plenty of reputable sites where you could derive everything you need and prevent you from ending up serving some time or spending a small fortune on an attorney.
    I actually live in Thailand and STILL import 90% of my stuff. All I really use from here is HCG and Proviron . My other source is better quality, 25% the cost and a lot more variety.

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    "I am not looking to do anything aggressive. I just would like to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle"

    just 15-20 lbs of muscle... thats all. I guess aggressive is 40-50.

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    To all who wanna plan an AAS trip I recommend Istanbul. Turkey has everything you need in one place. You could walk into a pharmacy and walk out with Sus, Primo, Abombs, Nolvadex , Clomid and HCG . not to mention kits of Norditropin.

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    All I really use from here is HCG and Proviron
    Titan how do you like the Proviron ???

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    This thread is funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gi812Many View Post
    Titan how do you like the Proviron???
    I use Proviron almost all the time. It frees up test from the SHBG, works as a mild AI (all I've ever needed) and works as a libido enhancer while doing things like dbol , tbol, var, tren , nandro etc. AND, it's cheap as hell here in Thailand too...

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    you seem to have no idea on what to do or how to use AAS. you need to read up and educate yourself more, yes AS can help you get bigger then a natty but as u mentioned above it sounds like you have no commitment what so ever to working out without the help of AAS. if you want to gain 15-20 pounds eat right, cause i can guarantee you that you have never dieted properly yet somehow expect these results. you have already said your taking them irresponsibly by mentioning you dont know what to do to prevent sides, youd be ****ed if you had gyno, libido etc, this is just my general opinion not tryna sound like a dick.

    whats your age btw?

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