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    blood work results

    i know its in the wrong section but more vets view here and i need advice asap.

    7 weeks into cycle test/tren . been taking liq stane since day 1. Started at 12.5mg eod. I bumped it to ed once gyno started. The gyno has gotton worst. Went had BW done to see were my E2 levels are. Can someone please check the results out and tell me what you think. My E2 level seems high

    Also been taking nolva 40mg/day for a week now. Should i jump on letro while im on cycle?
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    Is your AI legit? Your E2 is very high at 200. I would continue Nolva until your gyno is gone and if it's not gone down soon then make sure your nolva is not bunk and perhaps order some letro. How much test are you taking? You might bump Aromasin to 25 ED if it's a high dose.

    Has your gyno gotten better since using Nolva?

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    Test was at 500/mg wk 1-5. Dropped it to 375 last week and this week. Liq stane is from the banner up at the top and everyone swears by their legitimacy. I just recently bumped the stane up to 25mg/day ( bout a week ago)
    The gyno hasn't gotten worst but it is still bad. I think the puffy nipps is what bothers me the most.
    I have liq letro on hand

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    i would start the nolva at 10mg a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i would start the nolva at 10mg a day
    Been on the nolva for over a week now at 40mg/day. Hopefully I see some improvement soon and I can drop the nolva dosage down a bit. Think I should start letro? If so what dosage?

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    Your E2 is still through the roof and you need to bring it down. Use an AI and nolva at the same time and do more BW in a month for E2. You should see/feel improvement with the nolva in your nips and I would suggest, as did gixxer, cutting it down somewhat.

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/96/1/15.full

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Your E2 is still through the roof and you need to bring it down. Use an AI and nolva at the same time and do more BW in a month for E2. You should see/feel improvement with the nolva in your nips and I would suggest, as did gixxer, cutting it down somewhat.

    http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/96/1/15.full
    Would you suggest staying on the liq stane or move to letro and try and block all E. I've been using liq stane since the begining and my E2 are that high. Also, just to clearify, you are suggesting I drop the nolva dosage down a bit, correct?

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    Well, you either did not use enough or it at least wasn't effective. You have to evaluate that one. I prefer adex myself. Just don't overdo things and crash your E. Looking at your BW a little more start drinking more water and take a baby aspirin nightly. If your able to give blood, do so.

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    Thanks kelkel! Can you explain what you saw in my BW that led you to say I need more water and give blood if possible. Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to understand it that way I know next time.
    Your advice/knowledge is very appreciated

    Guess I'll just continue with the stane at 25mg/ day and just keep an eye on things. Maybe since I dropped my test dosage the stane might be more affective.

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