Test-E or Sus-250??????????

[Judah]

I have enough Test for 10 weeks/500mg a week and enough Sus for 15 weeks/500mg a week. So the question is...

Test-E for 10 weeks @ 500mg a week?

Or....

Sus-250 for 15 weeks @ 500mg a week.

Which do you guys feel is better for a first cycle?

Goal: lean gains control by diet and training.

[infantry13]

I'd say Test-E for the 10 weeks... you said it was your first cycle its better to only put one compound into your body. That way if you have a negative reaction you know it was the test e ya know what im trying to say? your first couple cycles you gotta keep simple and easy. You also might wanna think of getting an ai (like arimidex ) to take to control estro while on it.... Its never wise to cycle without an ai, you have a PCT right?

[t-dogg]

Agreed Test E for the first cycle. Second go with the sust, thats what I did.

[Judah]

Oh yeah, I have it all locked in.

Hmm, I was leaning towards the longer cycle and the Sus lol, damn. So even though sus is still test, all the different ester in sus may effect me differently, so I need to see how me and test-e get along first?

Week 1-14: Sustanon 500mg a week

Week 1-14: Armidex 0.25mg EOD and HCG 500iu EW

Week 15-16: HCG 500iu ED

Week 16-18: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50

33 6ft 220lbs 18% BF

Dropping to 10% BF naturally or maybe using Clen before starting cycle .

[t-dogg]

Yes I would get your bf at least to 15%, prefer less. Then run Test E. See how you react to Test and that one ester.

[Judah]

Yes I would get your bf at least to 15%, prefer less. Then run Test E. See how you react to Test and that one ester.

Roger dodger, thanks.

[t-dogg]

Clen is great stuff, ran it before. Just be careful with it and research for yourself.

[GorillaNuts]

Clen gets you shredded, but into my 3 rd cycle of it I developed palpitations and chest pain.

[Judah]

Clen gets you shredded, but into my 3 rd cycle of it I developed palpitations and chest pain.

I've heard of this before. Within what time frame did you do all 3 cycles and did the problem go away after use?

[t-dogg]

I have ran clen for 8weeks straight before with keto. Its best to ramp up to 120mcg's a day. My heart palpitation only happened for one day I believe. I personally didnt have any chest pains.

[austinite]

I have ran clen for 8weeks straight before with keto. Its best to ramp up to 120mcg's a day. My heart palpitation only happened for one day I believe. I personally didnt have any chest pains.

Are you serious? 8 weeks on clen straight? What was the high dose and for how long?

[t-dogg]

Are you serious? 8 weeks on clen straight? What was the high dose and for how long?

Yes sir. Ran it straight through. I ramped up to 120mcg's and flat lined. Keep in mind i also used ketoflin after week two each day. Others have done this also. I also watched my temperature and i had a heart rate monitor on everytime i did cardio and was lifting.


I dropped some bf from it. Im more of a fan now of gw-501516. Lost more fat, endurance has went up, and has other benefits.

[Judah]

Yes sir. Ran it straight through. I ramped up to 120mcg's and flat lined. Keep in mind i also used ketoflin after week two each day. Others have done this also. I also watched my temperature and i had a heart rate monitor on everytime i did cardio and was lifting.


I dropped some bf from it. Im more of a fan now of gw-501516. Lost more fat, endurance has went up, and has other benefits.

Do you get your gw-501516 online?

[t-dogg]

Do you get your gw-501516 online?

Yes i did. I researched for a bit on it. Talked to a few. Personally with my experience and research its way better then clen and alot less stressful on the body.