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    Thumbs up Gyno Symptoms

    Just trying to get additional info on gyno symptons.

    What are the intial warning signs?
    During a 8 week cycle when would the symptoms start showing themself?[if this can be determined]
    How quickly does gyno build up and at what point do the bitch tits become irreversible through medication?

    Still trying to get a fix on the best Anti E to have on hand for possible Deca D gyno?
    And if going to stack a TEST or something else with Deca D would you need both an ANTI E for the Deca conversion -Progest. as well as for Estrogen?
    Or would one ANTI E suffice?


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    Hello from a Newcomer,

    I have posted a message in the OVER 30 FORUM as I am 39 going on 40,with some background info on how many I have been training and what hope to accomplish and possible assistance.

    My post here pertains to Deca D and hairloss.
    I have read with great interest the debates on hairloss but what I would really be interested if finding out how many users of Deca Durabolin have actually experienced hairloss as a direct result of the Deca.
    Most of the discussions talk about the theory and I am hoping to obtain some concrete feedback.
    I am taking a first cycle of Deca D 200mg per week.
    Maybe there are other first timers out there who also did their first cycle with Deca Durabolin .
    At the moment I have a full head of hair.
    Ironically I actually prefer to shave it every third day but hey there might come a time when I want to grow it again.
    So just covering all the bases.

    Superb website,
    Kurt
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    I have done deca 3x now. Still have a whole head of hair. All steroids just speed up the process of hair loss if HAIR LOSS runs in the family.
    I wouldnt worry bout it if your almost 40 still can grow a schrub on your head...=)

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    DECA D AND HAIRLOSS

    Thanks for your reply.
    You say you have used DECA 3X.
    What were your results like?
    What qty and over what period?
    Did you notice any other side effects?
    Kurt69

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    deca doesn't cause hair loss period.....200mg a week won't do much for you try 400mg add some test and dbol .....I'm over 30 you should go and join www.anabolicuniverse.com there are more people your age there. It's more like family . You really need to add to your cycle at that 200mg it's probably just getting your levels up to where they were 10 years ago . your not going to get much growth out of it . If you would like some help I will need your stats and goals.

    Good first cycle deca 400mg week1-12
    Dbol 35mg everyday week 1-6
    test enthate week 1-10 300mg

    clomid and Hcg post cycle therapy

    go read eat the grow it's in this forum. diet and rest are as important as training and gear. make sure you have you supps. straight
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    as stated, you will only accelerate hair loss if you're prone to mail pattern baldness which is genetic. I carry this gene and have experience hair loss in each of my cycles, now I have my head shaved.

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    Touch wood I currently do not appear to have any male pattern baldness although I have a fair amount of grey.
    Most male pattern baldness probably shows signs at an earlier age[earlier than 40]
    Now it really is just a matter of considering the AS dosages.
    At this moment I am going to stick with the DECA D only cycle and possibly increase the dosage up to around 400mg in week three.
    Run it through 6-8 weeks and come back down to about 200mg in week 6-8.
    At least in this way I can determine if Deca works for me.

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    ramping up might not be good since it takes 3-5 weeks for deca to really kick in. I would start right at 400mg/week. test or at least dbol would be nice too.

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    deca doesn't aromatize into DHT....deca is absolutly safe on your hair at well over 2 grams a week.....( watch out for tits at 2grams a week ) your girl might get jelious(sp)

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    Deca can still cause hair loss if you are pre dispositioned to it even though it doesn't convert to dht. However it is one of the safer when it comes to hair loss.

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    you only get 1 first cycle and it is usually the best one . (((( it' s like smoking crack 1 first hits always the best one ))))) or so they say I don't smoke crack......sound like your alittle scared a little this is good so wait and get more comfertable there are many just getting started .....Go over to anabolic universe and pm Bigdaddy7 or backon both are friend and very knowledgeable. and closser to you age Bigdaddy is your age and was plAYING PRO FOOTBALL up intill this season ( blew out his knee ) but he ran his first cycle in september with deca and he can give you a better idea of what to expect ....tell ether of them I sent you......( there great guys ...AU is a family)

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    I had a hair transplant performed about 2 yrs ago. My doc said that if you make it to age 40-45 w/o losing your hair, you are pretty safe. Safe meaning that you are not susceptable to male pattern baldness. Count your blessings, and be happy with the hair you got-youll probably keep it.

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    Will visit Anabolic Universe and have a "consult"
    Do you mean I stand more chance at getting Gyno on 200 a week than on 400 a week?
    When do you know the Deca is kicking in[muscle size,strength] and so on?
    Need to differentiate between the possible psychological effects to my training and what is actually real Deca effect.
    In other words it is the actual AS working or is it my mind giving me the extra belief that I am getting stronger!

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    Visited AnabolicUniverse to do some extra research.
    ECFATCAT can you possibly specify where I can read up on what Bigdaddy did for his Deca D first cycle.
    Could not find his details on the registered forum list.
    No postings to be found.
    KURT39

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