all oral cycle ... HELP PLEASE

**jarhead1616** · 07-26-2012, 12:20 AM

So I am about to take an all oral cycle and I wanted to get some feedback and advice on the dosage and when in the day I should take each thing to get the most out of what I have. I have these coming
Var
Winni
aridex
T3
and T-Bol

what is the best way to take these together to get the most out of them and is this a decent stack for a beginner?

**MuscleInk** · 07-26-2012, 12:27 AM

Is this your first cycle? Why go strictly oral? What do you hope to achieve an how much have you ordered? Cycle length will depend on doses and amount you ordered.

**DigitalGorilla** · 07-26-2012, 12:45 AM

hmmm --- that cycle doesnt seem right to me...but MUSCLEINK is right - we need to know how much you have and what you plan to achieve. All I can advise on is the Anavar . Ive done 3 cycles before - all had great results - first two cycles were both 12 weeks long - and started at 20MGS Everyday. Then each week I raised it by 10mgs until I reached 60mgs ED. My third cycle, started higher - at 40mgs and is now at 80ED. Hope this helps ...

**jarhead1616** · 07-26-2012, 01:02 AM

Yeah it's my 1st cycle, The reason I am going strictly oral is
because I am in the military on a ship and well needles are not only
hard to come by if my stuff where to get looked at then they would
wonder why I have vials and needles in my rack so it's just easier to
hide tabs.. I got 200 tabs of var, 100 tabs of winni, 100 tabs of
aridex, 100 tabs of T3 and 200 tabs of T-Bol I'm trying to go 6 weeks.

**gixxerboy1** · 07-26-2012, 01:08 AM

i wouldnt do it. I would expect you shut down your natural test with all that and have even bigger issues.

**DigitalGorilla** · 07-26-2012, 01:24 AM

As far as the VARgoes - people stay around 60 80 or even 100 MGS a day....but Id stick with 60mg. IMO its the best for a starter...

**MuscleInk** · 07-26-2012, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

i wouldnt do it. I would expect you shut down your natural test with all that and have even bigger issues.

Ok, I get the decision for orals, thanks for being up front about it. Gixx is right, you'll shut down pretty hard. The anavar is fairly easy to tolerate, but, you need to think about liver management. I've run 100mg per day for 7 days as long as 16 weeks - I would NOT recommend this length for anyone especially on a first cycle. It's a bit too aggressive.

How long are you going to be deployed? Could you wait until you return and then think about cycling?

**jarhead1616** · 07-26-2012, 02:55 AM

Ok Well most of you have been saying I shouldn't stack all of these at once because I will shut down my test production. But out of what I already have coming to me what can I stack together I mean if I have to hold on to some of it for later so be it I mean I don't want to **** myself up or anything and I will be taking liver support. I was planning on doing this while still deployed right now I am about 225-230lbs on any givin day with a fuzzy 4 pack so I'm not bloated but not cut as I want to be. I'm just trying to see what I should do I plan on doing this cycle for 6 weeks I want to lean down and try to put on like 5 to 10 good clean dry lbs and get home weighting roughly 210-220 I would be happy with that. Any advice for that?

**gonzo6183** · 07-26-2012, 03:23 AM

Liver transplant anyone???

all oral cycle ... HELP PLEASE-liver.jpg

**sharmabrah** · 07-26-2012, 03:39 AM

I'm thinking about doing three weeks of Dianabol (at a fairly low dose for a less harsh shutdown) followed by five weeks of Anavar to increase LBM and help maintain the weight gained by the Dianabol. Liver support would be used two weeks in advance, during the cycle and two weeks after (Liv52 and/or TUDCA). Also some Nolvadex would be included and an AI on hand in case some bad sides form from the Dianabol. Thoughts?

**stpete** · 07-26-2012, 05:19 AM

I'd never run all those orals together. Care too much for my liver and kidneys. Run the var and when you get off that boat, run a real cycle.

**austinite** · 07-26-2012, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

i wouldnt do it. I would expect you shut down your natural test with all that and have even bigger issues.

Agree.

**jarhead1616** · 07-26-2012, 07:00 AM

so you're all saying that I shouldn't stack anything with the var? I mean would the T3 be bad to stack with it? and shouldn't I be taking the aridex for a pct at minimum?

**austinite** · 07-26-2012, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by jarhead1616

so you're all saying that I shouldn't stack anything with the var? I mean would the T3 be bad to stack with it? and shouldn't I be taking the aridex for a pct at minimum?

No. We're saying you should never run 2 orals together. And you should never run any compound without a test base.

**jarhead1616** · 07-26-2012, 07:44 AM

what do you mean by a test base I'm sorry if these questions seem dumb but I don't know and I don't want to mess myself up.

**austinite** · 07-26-2012, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by jarhead1616

what do you mean by a test base I'm sorry if these questions seem dumb but I don't know and I don't want to mess myself up.

I mean you need to run testosterone with it because sooner or later it will shut your natural production down and will also keep you sane.

**jarhead1616** · 07-26-2012, 08:50 AM

would I go insane without test?

**clowned** · 07-26-2012, 09:02 AM

If your not going to do it correctly, don't do it at all. Its unfortunate that your deployed but the reality is an oral only cycle is stupid. Wait till your not deployed and do a proper researched cycle later on..

or do an oral only cycle and severely regret this decision further on down the road when your kidneys are having trouble. Adjusting a cycle for your own convenience is the first step to not doing it correctly.

**Faceless Rider** · 07-26-2012, 09:29 AM

I agree with most all comments. You really have to weigh out all the pros/cons risks/rewards. Most are trying to say that if you do your homework on the site you'll find that oral only cycles have more risk in that they are harder on the liver and without test it is harder to deal with the shutdown. They also have less rewards as the weight gained from many orals is harder to maintain aftercycle. Adding orals like dbol or var to a test cycle is great to enhance the cycle but should never be used alone because its just not worth it.