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    Prolactin control

    For the life of me I can not get hold of caber prami or any of the others is there anything else I can use that is more readily available to control my prolactin levels??

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    I don't know of anything else have you looked at man power research?

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    I think vit b6 will control prolactin

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    Prami is available from the board sponsor (banner at the top right of this page). Ideally you want to use Prami, Caber, or Bromocriptine.

    IF you have no other options, Vitamin B6 has been shown to lower prolactin levels. Here is a list of studies you can look up that have shown vitamin B6 does lower prolactin levels:

    - J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1976 Mar;42(3):603-6

    Effect of pyridoxine on human hypophyseal trophic hormone release: a possible stimulation of hypothalamic dopaminergic pathway.

    - Delitala G, Masala A, Alagna S, Devilla L.

    "A single dose of pyridoxine (300 mg iv) produced significant rises in peak levels of immunoreactive growth hormone GH and significant decrease of plasma prolactin PRL in 8 hospitalized healthy subjects. Serum glucose, luteinizing hormone LH, follicle stimulating hormone FSH and thyrotropin TSH were not altered significantly. In addition, in 5 acromegalic patients who were studied with both L-dopa and pyridoxine, inhibition of GH secretion followed either agent in a similar pattern. These data suggest a hypothalamic dopaminergic effect of pyridoxine."

    - N Engl J Med 1982 Aug 12;307(7):444-5

    Pyridoxine (B6) suppresses the rise in prolactin and increases the rise in growth hormone induced by exercise.

    - Moretti C, Fabbri A, Gnessi L, Bonifacio V, Fraioli F, Isidori A.

    - Boll Soc Ital Biol Sper 1984 Feb 28;60(2):273-8

    - Barletta C, Sellini M, Bartoli A, Bigi C, Buzzetti R, Giovannini C.

    "The influence of vitamin B6 in a dosage of 300 mg X 2 in 24 hrs, on circadian rhythm of plasmatic ACTH, cortisol, prolactin and somatotropin have been studied in 10 normal women. After vitamin B6 24 hrs pattern of ACTH and cortisol is unchanged; prolactin levels are slightly lower, in a statistically unsignificant proportion the night peak of growth hormone is higher in a statistically significant proportion (p. 0.05). The effect of vitamin B6 is likely to me mediated by dopaminergic receptors at hypothalamic level as previous studies by other Authors appear to prove."


    I could, however, still try to get Prami or Caber. Worst case, use vitamin B6.

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    Been looking at this subject quite a bit lately found a little info in this link gonna try with my next cycle: http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthrea...ring-prolactin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini
    Prami is available from the board sponsor (banner at the top right of this page). Ideally you want to use Prami, Caber, or Bromocriptine.

    IF you have no other options, Vitamin B6 has been shown to lower prolactin levels. Here is a list of studies you can look up that have shown vitamin B6 does lower prolactin levels:

    - J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1976 Mar;42(3):603-6

    Effect of pyridoxine on human hypophyseal trophic hormone release: a possible stimulation of hypothalamic dopaminergic pathway.

    - Delitala G, Masala A, Alagna S, Devilla L.

    "A single dose of pyridoxine (300 mg iv) produced significant rises in peak levels of immunoreactive growth hormone GH and significant decrease of plasma prolactin PRL in 8 hospitalized healthy subjects. Serum glucose, luteinizing hormone LH, follicle stimulating hormone FSH and thyrotropin TSH were not altered significantly. In addition, in 5 acromegalic patients who were studied with both L-dopa and pyridoxine, inhibition of GH secretion followed either agent in a similar pattern. These data suggest a hypothalamic dopaminergic effect of pyridoxine."

    - N Engl J Med 1982 Aug 12;307(7):444-5

    Pyridoxine (B6) suppresses the rise in prolactin and increases the rise in growth hormone induced by exercise.

    - Moretti C, Fabbri A, Gnessi L, Bonifacio V, Fraioli F, Isidori A.

    - Boll Soc Ital Biol Sper 1984 Feb 28;60(2):273-8

    - Barletta C, Sellini M, Bartoli A, Bigi C, Buzzetti R, Giovannini C.

    "The influence of vitamin B6 in a dosage of 300 mg X 2 in 24 hrs, on circadian rhythm of plasmatic ACTH, cortisol, prolactin and somatotropin have been studied in 10 normal women. After vitamin B6 24 hrs pattern of ACTH and cortisol is unchanged; prolactin levels are slightly lower, in a statistically unsignificant proportion the night peak of growth hormone is higher in a statistically significant proportion (p. 0.05). The effect of vitamin B6 is likely to me mediated by dopaminergic receptors at hypothalamic level as previous studies by other Authors appear to prove."

    I could, however, still try to get Prami or Caber. Worst case, use vitamin B6.
    Thank you for that but I live in the uk and am unsure if I can import things like prami into the uk legally without getting a knock on the door from the police otherwise I would

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr579
    I think vit b6 will control prolactin
    Thanks I'll have a look into b6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get hench Die Trying;60***60
    Thank you for that but I live in the uk and am unsure if I can import things like prami into the uk legally without getting a knock on the door from the police otherwise I would
    I think you should be able to... I am not an expert on UK law, but anabolic steroids are legal for personal use and posession where you are. Things like Prami are not even classified as AAS and do not fall under that law at all. Therefore, they are just simply unavailable over the counter in stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini

    I think you should be able to... I am not an expert on UK law, but anabolic steroids are legal for personal use and posession where you are. Things like Prami are not even classified as AAS and do not fall under that law at all. Therefore, they are just simply unavailable over the counter in stores.
    Yeah but how much will the shipping be i bet it's a arm and a leg I'll have to check all my sources and see if they have it what's the full name of prami and how do you go about taking it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get hench Die Trying View Post
    Yeah but how much will the shipping be i bet it's a arm and a leg I'll have to check all my sources and see if they have it what's the full name of prami and how do you go about taking it
    If you're going to check with your sources, don't just ask them for Prami. Ask for Pami, Cabergoline (this is the preferred of the 3), or Bromocriptine. Unfortunately, prolactin antagonizers are very rare to get as a general item from sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini

    If you're going to check with your sources, don't just ask them for Prami. Ask for Pami, Cabergoline (this is the preferred of the 3), or Bromocriptine. Unfortunately, prolactin antagonizers are very rare to get as a general item from sources.
    Yeah I know one on them didn't even know what it was one said he can get hold of it and the other said just use proviron I said it won't do the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get hench Die Trying View Post
    For the life of me I can not get hold of caber prami or any of the others is there anything else I can use that is more readily available to control my prolactin levels??
    If you are currently taking an AI to control estrogen you most likely do not need to worry about prolactin. From what I read controling E keeps prolactin under control. Are you lactating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr579

    If you are currently taking an AI to control estrogen you most likely do not need to worry about prolactin. From what I read controling E keeps prolactin under control. Are you lactating?
    Nar I am not on cycle yet but I don't want to get fina dick from the tren ace and I read that the reason people get this is because of prolactin. I will be taking adex when I start as well as hcg . My source also said to me to do double the amount of test as the tren but everyone here swears to do it the other way round

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    P-5-P.
    B6 is a precursor to it, so this skips the conversion step.

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    I took caber to recover from prolactin issues I got from taking Tren . Prolactin agonist like caber's pretty expensive but I would have paid even more $$$ to have satisfactory sex again. IMO you gotta do what you gotta do to get back to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte
    P-5-P.
    B6 is a precursor to it, so this skips the conversion step.
    Sorry but I'm simple what does that mean lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get hench Die Trying View Post
    Sorry but I'm simple what does that mean lol
    What are you unclear about?

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    Drugs are bad, Mkay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permabulk View Post
    I would just like to add to this thread, that I have had a little, theorem if you will, regarding Cabergoline, or Bromocriptine. If you are unawares, these chemicals are actually synthesized from isolated compounds from Claviceps purpurea, also known as Ergot. This is why they are known as Ergo peptides. Get it, Ergot, Ergoline, Lysergic acid, JUST like Lysergic acid Diethylamide (LSD).

    Annnnd, they are very chemically similar to LSD. They ALL share the same base structure. I might be flat out wrong, but I would put my money on it that LSD would lower prolactin just like these drugs do. If you read the side effects from Caber or Bromo, one of them is hallucinations. If you took a dose that was very low, and under the threshold dose (The dose to hallucinate) it may be a possible option for people that cannot afford or access these more expensive drugs.

    Again that is just a theory, and I know we aren't supposed to talk about rec. drugs here, but I'm not talking about using them in that manner, so don't get mad Mods, plz? lol
    I think you just overextrapolated a bit there. No amount of dopamine agonist is going to get you high. Too much Prami will just make you puke and pass out, and I'm not sure what a high dose of Caber would do...but it wouldn't be anything psychedelic.
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    Drugs are bad, Mkay?
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    I still disagree. They are different compounds with different effects, not just similar drugs of different potency.
    But edit out your post, as it is really reckless and violates the board rules.
    Feel free to PM me about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte

    What are you unclear about?
    Pretty much the whole statement lol

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    How much and how often do you take prami can someone tell me this because I think my source can get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get hench Die Trying View Post
    How much and how often do you take prami can someone tell me this because I think my source can get it
    .5 - 1mg every day, taken before bed preferrably (because of its potential drowsiness side effect). Start at .5mg and slowly increase dose due to potential nausea side effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get hench Die Trying View Post
    Pretty much the whole statement lol
    P-5-P is pyridoxal-5-phosphate which is the active enzymes in vitamin B6. Sometimes it's sold as vitamin B6 phosphate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini

    .5 - 1mg every day, taken before bed preferrably (because of its potential drowsiness side effect). Start at .5mg and slowly increase dose due to potential nausea side effect.
    Will I need more then .50?? The drowsiness will be a blessing on tren lol

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    Has anyone else heard that controlling e2 levels also controls prolactin levels??

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