Atominis Tren Thread and my Idea........

**warmouth** · 08-01-2012, 09:46 PM

I am going to be starting the bulk phase in october of just Test C @500mgs a week. And since I am one of the ones who are terrified about the sides that may come with it, I have a proposed cycle for a Tren beginner I would like to throw out. I have been pondering itall day after reading his thread, and if I use Prop, alongwith Tren A, I could always just stop if need be. My original plan wasto bulk october and november, take off december and half of January, then start a cutting cycle at the first of feburary(Family vacation is middle of April and it is on the beach! I got to get ripped for then because I have never been!)So, here is what my original cutting cycle was to consist of:
Weeks 1-8 Test Prop @ 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-4 Winny @ .50mgs EOD
Weeks 5/6 Prop only
Weeks 7/8 Anavar @ 80mgs EDand extend it 2 weeks past the last pin.
*** I figured since the pinning will be done the week we go to florida, the Var could keep me looking the way I want to and help me keep from getting bloated and help maintain gainswhile I am there.

Now the cutting cycle I am leaning towards since Atominis post:
Weeks 1-8 Test Prop @ .25mgs EOD
Weeks 1-8 Tren A @100mgs EOD
Weeks 8/9/10 Anavar @ 80 mgs ED

Maybe the Prop should be jumped to .50 mgs, but from the read, I want Tren to do the work. I am absolutley scared about having a poor attitude and limp dick and a hardened temper. I do think I canhold myself back, it just scares me. I havea hardtimesleeping anyways and hypertension. I just want to increase only a small amount of mass, but want to keep BF to 8-10% maximum for the week.
So in your guys opinion,which of these 2 cycles will give me the least bloat, hardest muscles, and the leanest lookofthe2? Atomini, youre the man!Thanks alot guys!

**austinite** · 08-01-2012, 09:49 PM

Atomini doesn't like winny or var.

**Razor** · 08-01-2012, 09:52 PM

What? Who doesn't like var.. rubbish

**papa-g** · 08-01-2012, 10:31 PM

Why are you getting all worked up for one week with the family on the beach? If you eat right you can stay lean and not bloated for a week. If your main goal is beach season next year where do you plan on going after that. More mass? Maintain what you have? Lose most of it? I just think the way this thread reads it sounds silly.

**austinite** · 08-01-2012, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

What? Who doesn't like var.. rubbish

I know you crush them and mix them with your eggs.

**warmouth** · 08-01-2012, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by papa-g

Why are you getting all worked up for one week with the family on the beach? If you eat right you can stay lean and not bloated for a week. If your main goal is beach season next year where do you plan on going after that. More mass? Maintain what you have? Lose most of it? I just think the way this thread reads it sounds silly.

Sounds silly to be perfect as possible for beach season? hhhmmmm. I plan to be exaclty where I want to be for the rest ofthe summer. You know, like the times at the pool when you are the center of everyones attention? I have never looked as goodas I do now and I want to look even better at the beach, pool, resteraunt, sleepingin bed, going to work,etc.

**stpete** · 08-02-2012, 08:47 AM

You can accomplish your goals without all the headache and worries. What's wrong with eating right, training hard and just running the prop for 8 weeks? You have plenty of time to accomplish this.

**Atomini** · 08-02-2012, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

I know you crush them and mix them with your eggs.

LMAO.

Anyhow, I think everyone has pretty much chimed in and given the same advice I was going to give. Your proposed cycle is far too complex as well. Winny? Anavar ? Waste. Just use tren at an ever so slightly higher dose and you get the same effect as if you added winny and/or var into it at a MUCH better cost:benefit ratio, and it does it FAR BETTER as well. I am dead serious when I say most other AAS is useless, overpriced, overhyped SHIT compared to tren. Trenbolone , when used properly, is quite literally the universal steroid . Can be used for anything if you know what to do with it.

And, stpete is right, in the end.... you can accomplish what you want with prop-only.

**warmouth** · 08-03-2012, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Atomini

LMAO.

Anyhow, I think everyone has pretty much chimed in and given the same advice I was going to give. Your proposed cycle is far too complex as well. Winny? Anavar ? Waste. Just use tren at an ever so slightly higher dose and you get the same effect as if you added winny and/or var into it at a MUCH better cost:benefit ratio, and it does it FAR BETTER as well. I am dead serious when I say most other AAS is useless, overpriced, overhyped SHIT compared to tren. Trenbolone , when used properly, is quite literally the universal steroid . Can be used for anything if you know what to do with it.

And, stpete is right, in the end.... you can accomplish what you want with prop-only.

The first cycle was my original plan until I read your thread. The second one I postedisthe one I am leaning too. The Prop, Tren, and var to finish. Does that look good?

**warmouth** · 08-03-2012, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by stpete

You can accomplish your goals without all the headache and worries. What's wrong with eating right, training hard and just running the prop for 8 weeks? You have plenty of time to accomplish this.

Yes sir. I personally love the Prop only, as I have some experience and great results from it. Tren just sounds like a wonder compound. I dont want to really get bigger per se, just about 8-10 pounds, but be hard as a rock and slim with that "dry" look. Basically I want to look like muscular 215pound guy put into a FoodSaver lol. Id loveto be at 185 and solid as a brick and have like an 8% BF the week of vacation. Ive never been to the beach, pool, or anywhere else that I felt comfortable taking off my shirt. I have always beenself concious about my body and for once would like to turn someheads.

**stpete** · 08-03-2012, 03:32 AM

It can be done w/the prop. Concentrate on your diet and training. Do you plan on running AAS every time you go to the beach. Or anywhere else you might take your shirt off? C'mon...

**warmouth** · 08-03-2012, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

It can be done w/the prop. Concentrate on your diet and training. Do you plan on running AAS every time you go to the beach. Or anywhere else you might take your shirt off? C'mon...

Ha ha. I am not talking about everytime, but I only have 1 vacation a year, and its always at the beach. And since I have time to prepare for it and have a little experience, I would just like to be one of the "jacked" guys instead of the pasty white, flabby goon. I have never been overweight or fat, but I have never been confident of my body either. My diet is my absolute main concern, as it has been for a good while now due to my hypertension. I am now eating more to gain more, yet still keeping the saturated fats and sodium in check(hard to do). But I do plan on running 2 cycles a year quite possibly if everything goes good. I am not sure of what the future holds for me, but I am absolutley loving the gym, diet, fitness lifestyle as a whole and it has consumed me in a positive way. My friends and family have joined in as well since I started. It has become a hobby for me and gives me something to do that I enjoy. I love planning meals, scheduling my training and exercises for the upcoming week, actually seeing physical changes, etc. Every week it seems like I notice a new muscle or vein or something like that, and it gives me this unexplainable drive to go even harder. It is something that you know what I am talking about, but people who dont work out have no idea. I love it!