Opinions on dbol?

**ineedinfo** · 08-21-2012, 08:48 AM

I find Dbol an interesting steroid because I hear so many people hate on it, and at the same time people love it haha. I know everyone's bodies react different to steroids so Im sure the positive opinions on it were from people who didnt have a lot of sides and stuff but I also heard it can be rough on sides. What are your guys opinions?

**ineedinfo** · 08-21-2012, 08:51 AM

Note that I dont mean dbol only cycles. Opinions even when stacked with stuff.

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 08:55 AM

i dont use it anymore. I have in the past as a kickstart in the beginning of a cycle. Anything over 40mg is more sides then results for me. I dont use it anymore. I'm not that impatient that i need a kickstart, if i want results quicker for a reason i use a short ester.

**ineedinfo** · 08-21-2012, 09:15 AM

really? its rough on sides isnt it?

**baseline_9** · 08-21-2012, 09:28 AM

I agree with gix

I did 50mg as a kick start once and my appetite was crap.... I seriously couldn't eat... Had to drink a load of milk just to hit 3k cals...

The lower back pumps were terrible, couldn't sleep without a water bottle on my lower back....

Now I run it at 20mg throughout my cycles.... I much prefer it that way.... I can eat and sleep

**fit2bOld** · 08-21-2012, 09:30 AM

nothing more than a preworkout supplement.

**baseline_9** · 08-21-2012, 09:33 AM

You can pulse it on training days if u suffer any sides this helps a lot

**stpete** · 08-21-2012, 09:40 AM

Back pumps are my only complaints. and it doesn't matter what i take, i can always eat. But sometimes that isn't such a good thing for me. haha..

**Lunk1** · 08-21-2012, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by stpete

Back pumps are my only complaints. and it doesn't matter what i take, i can always eat. But sometimes that isn't such a good thing for me. haha..

I'm with you Pete. I wish I could find something to supress my appetite. Even tried Topamax/Phenteramine and still want to eat everything in sight. Hell Icould eat a hot bologne sandwich off of a wrotting corps!

**Shadowmaker** · 08-21-2012, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by ineedinfo

I find Dbol an interesting steroid because I hear so many people hate on it, and at the same time people love it

it is that way with everything... some likes mothers, some likes daughters, some likes to wear their clothes/old latvian saying/

i dont have any sides... have gone as high as 80mg a day(i was like 19 and red that Arnold did 100mg, so i just had to try) - didnt do shit actually... i have found that 30-40 is most optimal.

i have to agree with this article :

"D-bol really is an unreal roid and as I said it is even better than test in the short run IMHO.
One can get very nice results from d-bol alone at 50mg/day for 4-6 weeks. Don't take it for longer than 6 weeks though as it is a 17aa roid and as such is somewhat hard on the liver.
D-bol for 6 weeks at a time was a favorite cycle length in the old days and produced excellent gains. "

so, im a dbol guy to the max.

p.s - no need to dbol alone - its almost for free, so just get at least some test too, cause it will rock better and the cost of the cycle will be almost the same.

**Schwarzenegger** · 08-21-2012, 01:34 PM

I love dbol it's worked well for me at 50-60mg/day with very little sides. I love anadrol even more tho. Ive used from 50-100mg/day. I had amazing gains at 100mg/day with not many sides.

I would recommend both dbol or anadrol separately as a kickstart for almost any long estered cycle.

**cutting_king** · 08-21-2012, 02:04 PM

I'm pretty prone to bloating, so dbol isn't something I can use without my head turning into a beach ball, even on letro.

I stick to tbol for a kickstart

**wade31** · 08-21-2012, 02:09 PM

I take dbol for 1st 4week of my cycle... Usually bout 50mg... I drink loads of water n take vit c n cod liver oil when I'm taking them... Don't have a prob with my liver or kidneys then... Just pee a lot ha

**ineedinfo** · 08-21-2012, 02:48 PM

do you guys find that it causes gyno easy?

**cutting_king** · 08-21-2012, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by ineedinfo

do you guys find that it causes gyno easy?

I've heard it does but I use letro on every cycle and haven't ever had gyno issues. Just depends what AI you run I suppose

**magicstick2003** · 08-21-2012, 02:59 PM

I'm a fan of it, used it a couple of times prior to deciding shooting test prop wasn't so bad. Had good strength gains off it at 50/day didn't notice many side and was running it with an AI at the time.

**swollix** · 08-21-2012, 03:02 PM

Didn't get much sides, but didn't get much gains either. Just back pumps... Was my first cycle so I did 25mg per day.

**songdog** · 08-21-2012, 03:05 PM

Dbol I used it a lot many years ago but not in the past couple.Like Gixx I dont need no kicker.

**Shadowmaker** · 08-21-2012, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by ineedinfo

do you guys find that it causes gyno easy?

nope...
althou, i dont find anything that actually causes gyno, not even 1g of test...

**gixxerboy1** · 08-21-2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Shadowmaker

nope...
althou, i dont find anything that actually causes gyno, not even 1g of test...

i dont get gyno either, but if people are sensitive to E , d-bol will give them gyno

**Bevsta123** · 08-21-2012, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Shadowmaker

it is that way with everything... some likes mothers, some likes daughters, some likes to wear their clothes/old latvian saying/

i dont have any sides... have gone as high as 80mg a day(i was like 19 and red that Arnold did 100mg, so i just had to try) - didnt do shit actually... i have found that 30-40 is most optimal.

i have to agree with this article :

"D-bol really is an unreal roid and as I said it is even better than test in the short run IMHO.
One can get very nice results from d-bol alone at 50mg/day for 4-6 weeks. Don't take it for longer than 6 weeks though as it is a 17aa roid and as such is somewhat hard on the liver.
D-bol for 6 weeks at a time was a favorite cycle length in the old days and produced excellent gains. "

so, im a dbol guy to the max.

p.s - no need to dbol alone - its almost for free, so just get at least some test too, cause it will rock better and the cost of the cycle will be almost the same.

Are you really promoting Dbol only cycles?

**DeadlyD** · 08-21-2012, 09:08 PM

I just started a cycle of prop and dbol for the first 4 weeks at 40/day so far I don't mind it, but not really noticing too much yet,compared to my previous test only cycle, I am taking liquidex at .25 mgs ed

**warmouth** · 08-21-2012, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Bevsta123

Are you really promoting Dbol only cycles?

Of course he is. He is always full of brilliant advice! Read the other numerous posts.

**Shadowmaker** · 08-22-2012, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by Bevsta123

Are you really promoting Dbol only cycles?

dude, did you saw the " marks? its a citation from an artice - if i would be an author, i wouldnt use " marks

the guy promoting it in article, has 15 years experience on roids(done blood and liver tests each and every cycle) and is 5'10 and 245lbs with 9-10% BF...
who am i to promote something, im 6'2 and 240lbs if lucky... the only ppl one should listen to when it comes to roids, are those who have some real experience in them and have something to show for it...(being 10 years on drugs and packing less muscle than some natural teenagers doesnt get me into beliving into someones experience).

p.s - guys screeming now about liver toxicity or stuff should better be postin their bloodwork on dbol cycle...

again - citation, not promotion of my own :

" I'm being rather cautious but not overly so, as it's been demonstrated that using Anadrol at even 100 mg daily in normal men didn't cause any significant alterations. (3) Those in the study used 50 to 100 mg of oxymetholone daily for twelve weeks and saw no significantly adverse side effects. Liver function (which I think is blown totally out of proportion) was fine. "
3) Schroeder ET, et al. "Effects of an Oral Androgen on Muscle and Metabolism in Older, Community Dwelling Men." Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2002 Sep 24; [epub ahead of print]

the actual truth is, that if taken in normal dosages, a short cycle of orals is not that liver toxic cause liver can take some pretty big hits... its the long term damage causing that actually destroys the liver.
(this of course depends on people - some ppl die of eating peanuts, so we should always be careful with everything).

so, for those who actually wanna know something - this might be some good info... its a real study with real references - go, check, learn.
dont be one of those guys who says : "dbol destroys your liver" and has never done dbol and has never had any liver problems.

to answer your question once again - do i promote it? no... do i think it can be done if you only have 100tabs of dbol and you just must to do a cycle and your life depends on it? yes...

P.S - anyone that is going to disagree - do so with references to actual studies or attach your own blood work or anything... dont just talk because you "know" - i would like to hear : "how the hell you know".

Peace.

**Shadowmaker** · 08-22-2012, 03:20 AM

and yeah - the shit that testosterone does to your chol, hdl and ldl levels is scary... you **** these levels up just by doing 100mg a week... on longer test cycle, around week 7, this is how it looks :

ldl 160...
hdl 11.6...
Cholesterol to hdl ratio 15.7 to 1...

i think i dont even need to say anything about dbol cycles that are feared in here, and test cycles that are given as a great advice as a first cycle.