Ultradrol - friend took it, he's dumb, please help me fix him

**Brick** · 08-28-2012, 02:01 AM

Friend is 24 (today). did a 4 week cycle of ultradrol, it ended 3 weeks ago, no ai, no pct, he said he has been feeling shitty and his workouts have suffered because of it. I attribute this to possible low levels of test after the cycle?

Should I get him on some sort of PCT there? HCG ? etc. I know very little about ultradrol (methylstenbolone) aside from the fact that its a 'designer steroid ' or so I have read. I have already told him he's an idiot and that he should of done more research. He was told it was a pro-hormone and he didn't need PCT because Udrol doesn't convert to estrogen.

I would like to help him get back to normal, any help guys? thanks in advance!

**panntastic** · 08-28-2012, 02:14 AM

Your "friend" should do a proper pct and then educate himself on the dangers involved.

What sort of person takes something they don't even know what it is

**Brick** · 08-28-2012, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Your "friend" should do a proper pct and then educate himself on the dangers involved.

What sort of person takes something they don't even know what it is

Never said he was a smart friend. And for the record it's not me. I am on my own cycle right now and have proper PCT on hand for when I am done.

As for my friend I will talk to him tomorrw and see if he has access to nolvadex and clomid and a free hand to slap himself

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 08-28-2012, 03:38 AM

Ultradrol is a PH, it's not that serious. What dosages did he run? The only damage would have been his liver!

Ultradrol does not aromatize so an AI is not needed. There is a small section in Swifto's PCT thread on how to PCT for PH's. It's basically the same just smaller doses and less time on PCT I believe. If he's already been done for 3 weeks then he should be feeling normal but you can always get some Nolva or Clomid to be on the safe side.

I tried UD a while back, just made my strength go up but other then that it wasn't to exciting. You should have thrown it in the dumpster!

Honestly though, your friend could be over-analyzing the situation. I would look elsewhere as to why he's feeling "shitty." Also if you want to be completed sure you can go get some BW done. Personally though I think it's all in his head and something else is going on! Just my opinion!

**Brick** · 08-28-2012, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

Ultradrol is a PH, it's not that serious. What dosages did he run? The only damage would have been his liver!

Ultradrol does not aromatize so an AI is not needed. There is a small section in Swifto's PCT thread on how to PCT for PH's. It's basically the same just smaller doses and less time on PCT I believe. If he's already been done for 3 weeks then he should be feeling normal but you can always get some Nolva or Clomid to be on the safe side.

I tried UD a while back, just made my strength go up but other then that it wasn't to exciting. You should have thrown it in the dumpster!

Honestly though, your friend could be over-analyzing the situation. I would look elsewhere as to why he's feeling "shitty." Also if you want to be completed sure you can go get some BW done. Personally though I think it's all in his head and something else is going on! Just my opinion!

Not sure on the dosage. I don't think he cares or will listen to me if I say to get bw done. Maybe he's drinking and not being healthy

**MuscleInk** · 08-28-2012, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bucka

Not sure on the dosage. I don't think he cares or will listen to me if I say to get bw done. Maybe he's drinking and not being healthy

Sounds like he needs to help himself first.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. You can give a man knowledge but you can't make him think"

**str2234** · 08-28-2012, 05:09 PM

probably will recover after a month or two. could be feeling shitty because of liver problems and if he's drinking heavily that's stupid as well. at least he didn't do 10-12 weeks of 3 different chems with no pct like a buddy of mine did...

**Brick** · 08-29-2012, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Sounds like he needs to help himself first.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. You can give a man knowledge but you can't make him think"

so true. hopefully he will 100% recover but also learn from this lesson. He knows I know about that kind of stuff so I was kind of pissed he didn't ask sooner