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    Gear leaking from injection site?

    Hey guys. Today was my 4th week of a sust and tren cycle. I inject sust E4D in my upper glutes with 65mg of tren. But my delts are giving me trouble, they are sore as f**k right after pinning and hurt for 2-3 days afterwards. Today when I pinned while drawing out the needle, some of my gear followed along with it?!? What is up with that? I figured that maybe I pulled it out to slowly but I need a veteran opinion so I'm not wasting my precious trenbolone every pin.

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    i keep the pin in for 15 sec after i have fully dropped the plunger. have your cotton ball ready as soon as you pull out and put pressure on the inj site and massage in. make sure you drop the plunger slow, i go super slow mostly so i can eleviate any pip. hope this helped.

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    I leave the pin in for 15 or 30 seconds as well. I still get a little dribble on occasion. Nothing to worry about.

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    Leaving the pin in or using a z track injection method will reduce back flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk
    Leaving the pin in or using a z track injection method will reduce back flow.
    I can't say I'm familiar with this method but I will do some research on the matter. Any advice for my PIP? It's really destroying my upper body workouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenmcgiver View Post
    I can't say I'm familiar with this method but I will do some research on the matter. Any advice for my PIP? It's really destroying my upper body workouts.
    Heating the area with a heating pad might help or using an "Icy Hot" cream (or similar substance) might help. It really depends on the cause of the PIP - i.e. if its your gear sitting in the area or if the muscle was traumatized slightly during the injection. Sometimes massaging the area or working out can help break up any gear sitting in the fascia and alleviate the pain - SOMETIMES. You could also try a mild pain reliever (ibuprofin, motrin, NSAIDs, etc).

    Unfortunately, its just one of those things that comes with injections. Some areas have greater nerve density, smaller muscle ratio and are more prone to trauma when you inject. It really shouldn't last more than a week. I pinned my traps on Sunday for the first time and could barely move my arm yesterday. It was like my shoulder completely locked up. It's better today but still only at 30% range of motion and I won't be able to lift until Thurday at the earliest. Not likely that I'll pin my traps again - but who knows, I probably will anyway. lol

    In many cases, your "virgin muscles" will learn to accept the injection and the pain shouldn't be as much of a problem.

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    Mind throwing out your stats and cycle experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Leaving the pin in or using a z track injection method will reduce back flow.
    This...

    And put a little air int he barrel... Will also push all ur gear out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
    Mind throwing out your stats and cycle experience?
    My stats-
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    Been lifting for 10 years and dieting for 2

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    2 12 weeks test E cycles with drol kicker
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    it happens....

    pen i pull the needle out, I put a finger over the hole and massage a bit until the hole closes. works like a charm

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
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    And put a little air int he barrel... Will also push all ur gear out
    I do that as well.

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    Make sure you aspirate as well and that the muscle you're hitting is relaxed. PIP should go away soon, usually for me I have no PIP after the second injection in virgin muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
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    And put a little air int he barrel... Will also push all ur gear out
    True. But a syringe accounts for the gear left in the needle, so then you would be injecting more than what you actually accounted for. No biggie, unless you're a super precise kind of guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
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    And put a little air int he barrel... Will also push all ur gear out
    never thought about, into I will try this. Good info

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