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    Question Sust/Tren E cycle, asking for honest critique

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    If you're set on running for 12 weeks i would run tren ace for the 8-10 weeks. Maybe the tren e for 10, but i like to run long esters for at least 12. If not, run your Sust for 14 and tren e for 12.

    Add nolva to your pct
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    And eod isn't m-w-f...It's m-w-f-su-tues-thur...so forth and so on.

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    Please go read Atomini's sticky on tren . You have alot of homework to do. Then come back with what you have learned. Your doses and times are off. I could spoon feed you but it is important that you read and learn. It's for your health.

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    It's his 3rd cycle and first w/tren . He doesn't need to be switching those doses around. The tren's gonna work regardless. If that's what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    It's his 3rd cycle and first w/tren. He doesn't need to be switching those doses around. The tren's gonna work regardless. If that's what you're talking about.
    Sorry I am on my second 9 hour job of the day so I am admittedly a little off. Here is what I really meant to say. Because you are considering running a long ester tren you need to run it for at LEAST 10 weeks and I would recommend 12. There is no reason to inject MWF as M/Th will be sufficient enough to keep stable blood levels.

    I did however miss the part about this being a 3rd cycle and for that I apologize. Since it is a first tren cycle I might also recommend considering Tren A if available so that you can "get out of it" faster if the sides become unbearable.

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    He, doesn't have to inject 3 times a week but it certainty won't hurt.
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    I would drop the adex to .25 mg ed. Bump the tren to 10 weeks. Pct start s 18 days after last Sust injection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    He, doesn't have to inject 3 times a week but it certainty won't hurt.
    No your right..it wouldnt hurt to split it up and inject 5 times a week either but it seems pointless to poke holes when you don't have to.

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    looks good. i would also advise to run tren ace. thing about tren is it can but not always have some gnarly sides n if u use the e ester then u have to wait 2-3 weeks for those sides to go away. with ace, a few days- a week. Id also go 200 a week on the trenny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC1087271 View Post
    Hey guys so I have all of my materials and now I'm just putting everything together in regards to how I will be pinning. I'll be pinning Tren Ace ED in a total of 200mg a week and pinning Sust EOD in a total of 600 mg/wk. So my final question is this:

    Normally, without tren I would start arimidex (.5mg ED) and HCG (500iu/wk = 250iu M/T) about 10-14 days into my cycle. Can I still do this despite the fact that I now have the addition of tren in my cycle or should I start even sooner (ie Day 1)? I will also start prami at the same time as arimidex/HCG if I cannot find any literature/articles/etc that outline protocols on this.
    Did you read Atominis tren sticky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC1087271 View Post
    Yes.
    - He states, "Pramiprexole should be dosed at 0.5mg per day for the first few days, and then increase to 1mg thereafter." and then someone asks, "If I'm going to be using tren e, when should I begin taking my daily 0.5mg of prami?" and he responded, "As soon as possible. First day of your cycle ." which I'm guessing would be the same answer if someone asked if they were using Tren Ace.
    - He's also pretty set on using HCG for PCT whereas I don't want to do that given other sources I have read. Not saying I don't believe him, he seems extremely intelligent and from one med-school student to another, I respect him a lot and love how he cites credible sources for a lot of his advice.
    - In regards to arimidex, someone asked him when to start it but they were only dosing Test 100mg/wk so he said it wasn't enough to necessitate the use of arimidex so I'm still wondering about that.
    Most agree that HCG should be run through cycle...this will help wth atrophy.

    I believe in running the adex on ALL cycles. I never used to but after my last run of tren and suffering from some high BP and a cpl other sides I decided to. Has definetly helped and there is no reason NOT to run it that would convince me otherwise.

    I will say that I don't use the Prami or Caber...I just keep on hand. MOST estro issues can be fought with the AI.

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    im on that same cycle

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