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    Hi!

    I am so sorry to post yet another thread about this but it's just all so confusing.

    I bought clen and keto but I have no idea how to take it! With keto do I still need to do 2 week clen cycles?

    And this is going to sound very very stupid... But what is a mcg?!! Pictures would help. I have a 3ml plunger.

    When's the best time off the day to take clen?

    Once again, I apologise. If you're going to be rude and criticise, please don't.

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    With keto you can take clen longer ..id say 6 weeks MAX. After 2 week taking clen start taking 1mg of keto per night right before you go to sleep. I mg = 1 ml on the oral syringe you got. The clen is 200mcg/ml so you will be taking much less than 1ml. Start off around 25mcg - 2x/day. Take clen first thing in am and then in later afternoon. Do not take at night or you will have trouble sleeping. Hope this helps!

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    Wow I must be retarded.. The mcg mls thing is still confusing me! Is 25mcg half of half 1 ml?

    Okay, I'll have one dose at 7:30 and 12:30?

    Umm, is it okay to drink while taking this? What's the expected time frame of 8kg weight loss? With low carb diet and minimal exercise?

    No you have helped so much, it's very appreciated.

    Thank you

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    When you get liquidex from AR-R they send you an oral syringe. And the dose should be 200mcg/ml. That means pull it to .1ml and that's 20 micrograms. If you pulled it all the way to the end you would get 1mg which is too much(200mcg=death). If you have any confusion let me know and ill take a pick of mine to show you.

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    Day 1 Clen 20mcg
    Day 2 Clen 20mcg
    Day 3 Clen 40mcg
    Day 4 Clen 40mcg
    Day 5 Clen 60mcg
    Day 6 Clen 80mcg
    Day 7 Clen 100mcg
    Day 8 Clen 120mcg
    Day 9 Clen 120mcg
    Day 10 Clen 120mcg
    Day 11 Clen 120mcg
    Day 12 Clen 120mcg
    Day 13 Clen 120mcg
    Day 14 Clen 120mcg
    Day 15 1mg keto before bed
    Day 16 1mg keto before bed
    Day 17 1mg keto before bed
    Day 18 1mg keto before bed
    Day 19 1mg keto before bed
    Day 20 1mg keto before bed
    Day 21 1mg keto before bed
    Day 22 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 23 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 24 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 25 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 26 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 27 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 28 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 29-36 1mg keto before bed
    Day 37-44 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed

    Off and on like that for 8 weeks is my method. Everyone does it different, but this works well.

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    They didn't include the plunger. I still have the one from when I had albuterol but the lines have faded

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    Also, I'ma female and I weigh about 60kgs... Are you sure that will be okay for me?

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    Well it's best if you use a 1cc plunger because you only want small amounts.

    .1cc=20mcg
    .2cc=40mcg
    .3cc=60mcg

    And so on. Go to local pharmacy and get a baby oral syringe(with lines). Or order one from arr. They ship super fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayrose View Post
    Also, I'ma female and I weigh about 60kgs... Are you sure that will be okay for me?
    I do not know the answer to that. I would think 120 or even 100 would be too much. Might want to stop at 80mcg.

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    Okay, I've started with 25mcg I think..

    No real side effects yet.

    But question, has anyone else had extremely vivid crazy dreams on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayrose View Post
    Okay, I've started with 25mcg I think..

    No real side effects yet.

    But question, has anyone else had extremely vivid crazy dreams on it?

    Keto will give me weird dreams.

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    For first timers start at 20mcg's of clen and increase 20 each day until sides are to much or you make it to 120mcg's. You can run 2wks on/off, but since you have keto you can use it straight through. Start keto at the end of week two and use 1ml to start at night and increase if needed.


    You should increase water intake also. Take tourine also and have pass on hand if you cramp.

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    Does anyone get severe cramping?! How do I stop this?!

    I was running today and I either pulled muscles or my quads extremely cramped.

    The pain is excruciating, I can barely walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayrose View Post
    Does anyone get severe cramping?! How do I stop this?!

    I was running today and I either pulled muscles or my quads extremely cramped.

    The pain is excruciating, I can barely walk.
    try potassium, either supps, or a banana or 2 a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234 View Post
    When you get liquidex from AR-R they send you an oral syringe. And the dose should be 200mcg/ml. That means pull it to .1ml and that's 20 micrograms. If you pulled it all the way to the end you would get 1mg which is too much(200mcg=death). If you have any confusion let me know and ill take a pick of mine to show you.
    ive ran doses of up to 240 mcg, and im still alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234 View Post
    When you get liquidex from AR-R they send you an oral syringe. And the dose should be 200mcg/ml. That means pull it to .1ml and that's 20 micrograms. If you pulled it all the way to the end you would get 1mg which is too much(200mcg=death). If you have any confusion let me know and ill take a pick of mine to show you.
    ive ran doses of up to 240 mcg, and im still alive

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    Man I feel so dumb! I'm how many mcgs in 1g? Is 1ml = 1mg?

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    1000000 mcg in a gram

    It's already been said that the clean is dosed at 200mcg/ml..... Is it not on the bottle?

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    3-5 grams of taurine a day, potassium and lots of water should kill the cramps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234 View Post
    Day 1 Clen 20mcg
    Day 2 Clen 20mcg
    Day 3 Clen 40mcg
    Day 4 Clen 40mcg
    Day 5 Clen 60mcg
    Day 6 Clen 80mcg
    Day 7 Clen 100mcg
    Day 8 Clen 120mcg
    Day 9 Clen 120mcg
    Day 10 Clen 120mcg
    Day 11 Clen 120mcg
    Day 12 Clen 120mcg
    Day 13 Clen 120mcg
    Day 14 Clen 120mcg
    Day 15 1mg keto before bed
    Day 16 1mg keto before bed
    Day 17 1mg keto before bed
    Day 18 1mg keto before bed
    Day 19 1mg keto before bed
    Day 20 1mg keto before bed
    Day 21 1mg keto before bed
    Day 22 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 23 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 24 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 25 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 26 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 27 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 28 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed
    Day 29-36 1mg keto before bed
    Day 37-44 Clen 120mcg /1mg keto before bed

    Off and on like that for 8 weeks is my method. Everyone does it different, but this works well.
    Old thread but this answer is what i was looking for, the only question i had was Day15-21...according to this I dont use clen during these days ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma10 View Post
    Old thread but this answer is what i was looking for, the only question i had was Day15-21...according to this I dont use clen during these days ?
    you can run the clen straight through for 6 weeks, that's the point of taking the keto with it, otherwise you would have to do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    you can run the clen straight through for 6 weeks, that's the point of taking the keto with it, otherwise you would have to do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off...
    Gotcha, and I'm assuming i would keep pyramiding or maintain 120.

    BTW my BF is 30%, male, 6'4" 279Lbs (126 kilos)

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    Is keto an over the counter or? I ordered the liquid clen and planned doing a two week on the two week off but I think the keto might be a better idea....

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma10 View Post
    Gotcha, and I'm assuming i would keep pyramiding or maintain 120.

    BTW my BF is 30%, male, 6'4" 279Lbs (126 kilos)
    bump

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    Gotcha, and I'm assuming i would keep pyramiding or maintain 120.

    BTW my BF is 30%, male, 6'4" 279Lbs (126 kilos)

    bump bump

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    So when does one take Keto during a long cycle of Clen ? the very first day or first day after 2 weeks for 2 week straight ?

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    So you can run clen from day 1-42 if you take 1mg keto along with the clen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allskill87 View Post
    So you can run clen from day 1-42 if you take 1mg keto along with the clen?
    Yes. Take the keto at night right before bed.

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