2nd cycle,.....my 5 month plan!

[DigitalGorilla]

And FYI -- anyone that uses CLomid - im not knocking it --- i just ont use it YET cause I have YET to need it. Im not saying anyway is right or wrong...just my choice

[Sworder]

I have all my homework done, and Ive done cycles before with no issues.
In my opionion - clomid and Nolvo arent needed. I didnt need them to bounce back on either of my previous cycles. And I kept 98% of all gains. If you need them - thats YOUR BODY. I know whats best for MINE. Also _ i do work on it year round. I just wont take AAS year round. And you should research a little--- cause the HCG will get your test running - which is what the P would do. So - trust me ive done my research

Hcg acts like LH so it stimulates the testes to produce testosterone . Hcg will suppress LH from the Pituitary so you are wrong lol. Sure, of course you know what's best for your body. Good luck!

[DigitalGorilla]

Ok - so we dont agree.

[DigitalGorilla]

Again...the point of this was just to basically keep track of what im doing ---- im not looking to make or break the clomid argument -- to each his own

[Brohim]

Again...the point of this was just to basically keep track of what im doing ---- im not looking to make or break the clomid argument -- to each his own

If you use HCG it's good idea to run Clomid to restart the Pituitary...you will come back faster....I have no doubt that you come back but maybe Clomid you would come back faster. I recommend low dose Clomid 25mg ED. You could run 50 for the first week. It seems any higher side effects come on...mood....and can effect eyesight!

[DigitalGorilla]

If you use HCG it's good idea to run Clomid to restart the Pituitary...you will come back faster....I have no doubt that you come back but maybe Clomid you would come back faster. I recommend low dose Clomid 25mg ED. You could run 50 for the first week. It seems any higher side effects come on...mood....and can effect eyesight!

See --- THAT --- i agree with. Yes it will work faster. But with the noted sides - for one the eye sight - I just rather take it slow. My body bounces back SO FAR. Maybe next cycle I will need it..

[Jonnyg419]

I can understand you not wanting to do the Clomid, it has been messing with my vision for over a week now.

[DigitalGorilla]

I can understand you not wanting to do the Clomid, it has been messing with my vision for over a week now.

My trainer and my source for HGH both had Clomid related issues. My source had VERY bad sides...

[Sworder]

My trainer and my source for HGH both had Clomid related issues. My source had VERY bad sides...

It's been used in patients for years without adverse effects. They probably dosed it too high. 25mg is enough, 50mg is recommended.

[DigitalGorilla]

50mg is what i heard....

[austinite]

50mg is what i heard....

Where did you disappear to? Still losing weight? Good to see you're posting again.

[DigitalGorilla]

Hey Austin! Yea man! My job was doing our MACS over so I couldnt get on at work for a while! And yea still losing....its a long road!

[austinite]

^ awesome. Well keep up the good work bro. 100 lbs+ is a killer level of dedication that the majority don't have. Stay powerful, friend.

[Phased]

My trainer and my source for HGH both had Clomid related issues. My source had VERY bad sides...

Swap the clomid for evista or torefieme and run it with nolvadex ! Minimal if any sides with those.

[DigitalGorilla]

^ awesome. Well keep up the good work bro. 100 lbs+ is a killer level of dedication that the majority don't have. Stay powerful, friend.

Thanks bro! It was hard to keep in "losing state" while on the TEST but i still managed to keep the cals down and dropped another 9lbs ,.. and went down in BF....i hope to see all my goals come thru by Mar/April....

[warmouth]

I personally cant understand the logice of proven methods of PCT, coming from massive guys with undoubtable knowledge. But it is your body, and you are permitten to do with it what you will. I dont care how you do it, as long as you can do it, and it sticks for the long term, say 10 years down the road. What I would suggest is to get BW draw after cycle to check lipid values. Armidex, from what several of us have been extensively researching, can be down right aweful on triglycerides, and LDL/HDL. That being said, those things can cause horrible problems short term, as well as long term. That is my concern for you. You can do what you will and get full support from me, but I would get BW done right after PCT and see where you stand with the ticker. Bad lipid panels, from what I have been researching, can cause horrific problems if left unchecked at very early stages, not years down the road. I can get the source because it was at my DRs office, but one study showed a TRT patient with hardened arteries clogged with plaque build up. A heart attack is when the DRs found the underlying problems. It was the AI prescribed to him for his TRT. Now, this is an unbacked source, as I cannot get my hands on the article(I can try), but I am just saying to get it checked. Good Luck!

[DigitalGorilla]

I personally cant understand the logice of proven methods of PCT, coming from massive guys with undoubtable knowledge. But it is your body, and you are permitten to do with it what you will. I dont care how you do it, as long as you can do it, and it sticks for the long term, say 10 years down the road. What I would suggest is to get BW draw after cycle to check lipid values. Armidex, from what several of us have been extensively researching, can be down right aweful on triglycerides, and LDL/HDL. That being said, those things can cause horrible problems short term, as well as long term. That is my concern for you. You can do what you will and get full support from me, but I would get BW done right after PCT and see where you stand with the ticker. Bad lipid panels, from what I have been researching, can cause horrific problems if left unchecked at very early stages, not years down the road. I can get the source because it was at my DRs office, but one study showed a TRT patient with hardened arteries clogged with plaque build up. A heart attack is when the DRs found the underlying problems. It was the AI prescribed to him for his TRT. Now, this is an unbacked source, as I cannot get my hands on the article(I can try), but I am just saying to get it checked. Good Luck!

The SAME PEOPLE that say take clomid - also take armidex and recomend it..... but as for me - it works for the bloating. I am a dj in a busy NYC club - im on the mic all night ---- so there for I drink about 12 to 15 bottles of water at night.....the bloating while on test was bad for me - so the ADex helped. And you said you cant understand going against what these guys say...well its easy. I trust those on here - but I also trust my circle of friends and lifters. All which say stay away from CLomid.

[Sworder]

The SAME PEOPLE that say take clomid - also take armidex and recomend it..... but as for me - it works for the bloating. I am a dj in a busy NYC club - im on the mic all night ---- so there for I drink about 12 to 15 bottles of water at night.....the bloating while on test was bad for me - so the ADex helped. And you said you cant understand going against what these guys say...well its easy. I trust those on here - but I also trust my circle of friends and lifters. All which say stay away from CLomid.

Read studies on the subject as there is empirical data that shows they work to help prevent AAS Induced Hypogonadism. Which you are shooting for by not running PCT. But it's your body you know best Carrying around a lot of weight as in being overweight is typically a strain on the heart in itself and you want to push the envelope on BP/HR and lipids with supraphysiological levels of androgens and dosing hGH very poorly and foolishly. LOL it is funny that you think you know what you are doing. Good luck either way!

[DigitalGorilla]

Read studies on the subject as there is empirical data that shows they work to help prevent AAS Induced Hypogonadism. Which you are shooting for by not running PCT. But it's your body you know best Carrying around a lot of weight as in being overweight is typically a strain on the heart in itself and you want to push the envelope on BP/HR and lipids with supraphysiological levels of androgens and dosing hGH very poorly and foolishly. LOL it is funny that you think you know what you are doing. Good luck either way!

Well- first all - im not carrying much weight now. My bf is 18% give or take.... And my heart is just fine. And my hgh is dosed wrong?? lol Again thats all your opinion. the norm for GH is 4 to 8 ius.....

[DigitalGorilla]

this is too funny. All over clomid..... you make the stuff or something? lol

Bottom line - for me - Clomid is not needed - and not worth the sides. If I ever need it - ill take it - but so far I havent. And ive had great success listening to those I choose to listen to....so until its breaks - im not gonna fix it

[mojo999]

Its no secret - I was bad. 350 lbs and a BF % of I think 39% was my highest..... I never did anything except eat and sleep all my life. Never even able to do a pull up in school. Now i bang out 30 a day everyday while the dog watches me .....lol -- im younger at 34 than i was at 24

110+ lbs!!!? BRAVO!!!! You're goddamn inspirational!!!! I'm sure that feels so damn liberating doesn't it? Keep it up bro!!!

[DigitalGorilla]

110+ lbs!!!? BRAVO!!!! You're goddamn inspirational!!!! I'm sure that feels so damn liberating doesn't it? Keep it up bro!!!

Thanks bro!
and yea --- it changed my life......it was worth the blood sweat and pins!

[Sworder]

It's not about clomid, it's about your way of thinking and that you are not able to look at it objectively and realize that you may be doing more damage to your health than good. Get some bloodwork done, the numbers won't lie.

Cycling is like playing russian roulette and people do not want to admit it. One day you will shoot your system and you will be hypogonadal. Dick won't work, and TRT for life with a small chance to produce children. Take a look at most of the Vets here, you don't play in this game for long without being on TRT or blasting and cruising. But still all these kids that want to get buff come on here and the obese people that want a crutch to lose some weight don't understand the magnitude of the decision they are making. This is you, you are playing russian roulette and since you have no clue what you are doing you think it's gonna all work well for you. If you are willing to sacrifice your HPTA to achieve your goals I say fvck it go for it!

I don't know where you think that PCT is an opinion. It's not really debatable or anybody's opinion. It is a scientifically proven protocol to restore the HPTA. Your frivolous thinking that these are "opinions" and that you think that hCG suppresses the Pit is an opinion I have and that our views differ?

The hGH dosing is an opinion and you are using it for too short of a time and at too high of a dose when you are not familiar with the compound. 5IU could have your hands feeling like bricks but you don't know and you think that is an opinion. What is your dosing schedule for fat burning with the hGH?

BF of 18% is more of a health risk than chronic opiate use LOL Do you think it is my opinion that obesity related causes of death are the biggest problem next to cancer? Do you think it is my opinion that losing weight too fast is a health risk? Do you think it is my opinion that pushing 8iu hGH 60mg Anavar and 500mg Testosterone may pose a health risk to an already beaten system? Do you think it is my opinion that the healthiest course of action would be to change your lifestyle fix a healthy diet and maintain a good exercise routine? Get bloodwork, control your estrogen and lose it the healthy way. I understand you have made buddies here with 500+ posts but understand that if you would create a new account and post your stats and the proposed cycle you want to do; everybody would be telling you the same thing I am telling you.

Skip the drugs, learn to exercise and eat healthy and you will achieve your goals

There may be no fixing it when it's broken HAHAHA this is what you aren't understanding. <- Not an opinion

[DigitalGorilla]

It's not about clomid, it's about your way of thinking and that you are not able to look at it objectively and realize that you may be doing more damage to your health than good. Get some bloodwork done, the numbers won't lie.

Cycling is like playing russian roulette and people do not want to admit it. One day you will shoot your system and you will be hypogonadal. Dick won't work, and TRT for life with a small chance to produce children. Take a look at most of the Vets here, you don't play in this game for long without being on TRT or blasting and cruising. But still all these kids that want to get buff come on here and the obese people that want a crutch to lose some weight don't understand the magnitude of the decision they are making. This is you, you are playing russian roulette and since you have no clue what you are doing you think it's gonna all work well for you. If you are willing to sacrifice your HPTA to achieve your goals I say fvck it go for it!

I don't know where you think that PCT is an opinion. It's not really debatable or anybody's opinion. It is a scientifically proven protocol to restore the HPTA. Your frivolous thinking that these are "opinions" and that you think that hCG suppresses the Pit is an opinion I have and that our views differ?

The hGH dosing is an opinion and you are using it for too short of a time and at too high of a dose when you are not familiar with the compound. 5IU could have your hands feeling like bricks but you don't know and you think that is an opinion. What is your dosing schedule for fat burning with the hGH?

BF of 18% is more of a health risk than chronic opiate use LOL Do you think it is my opinion that obesity related causes of death are the biggest problem next to cancer? Do you think it is my opinion that losing weight too fast is a health risk? Do you think it is my opinion that pushing 8iu hGH 60mg Anavar and 500mg Testosterone may pose a health risk to an already beaten system? Do you think it is my opinion that the healthiest course of action would be to change your lifestyle fix a healthy diet and maintain a good exercise routine? Get bloodwork, control your estrogen and lose it the healthy way. I understand you have made buddies here with 500+ posts but understand that if you would create a new account and post your stats and the proposed cycle you want to do; everybody would be telling you the same thing I am telling you.

Skip the drugs, learn to exercise and eat healthy and you will achieve your goals

There may be no fixing it when it's broken HAHAHA this is what you aren't understanding. <- Not an opinion

Bro - honestly you dont know anything about me. First off - im on HGH FULL TIME. Ive never gone off since I started a year ago..
Second off - i get blood work done EVRY SINGLE time I take AAS
Third off -- this is all opinion. Scroll up - there are others saying NO to CLOMID. And plenty of people on here that take upwards of 12ius a day.
Fourth - my diet and gym routine are SPOT ON - which is why I have lost over 100 lbs.
fifth! - you said I lost weight too fast? So you are saying 110 lbs over TWO YEARS is too fast??? lol


Bro listen -- just stop talkin to me. You have YOUR OPINION. I have mine. My results speak for them selves

[DigitalGorilla]

I work in a club with over 50 security guards. 4 of which fight MMA and almost all have or do compete in some form. Most have been using AAS for years... and none take clomid. Not even one. And almost all of us take that GH dosage while on cycle.....

[warmouth]

The SAME PEOPLE that say take clomid - also take armidex and recomend it..... but as for me - it works for the bloating. I am a dj in a busy NYC club - im on the mic all night ---- so there for I drink about 12 to 15 bottles of water at night.....the bloating while on test was bad for me - so the ADex helped. And you said you cant understand going against what these guys say...well its easy. I trust those on here - but I also trust my circle of friends and lifters. All which say stay away from CLomid.

Clomid is recommended, not set in stone by some. Nolvadex pretty much is. Drinking a ton of water should not cause bloat, but should help from getting it. Foods cause bloat for me. But I was more less talking about adex and lipids. That is dangerous and I was only recommending you get BW done after to make sure you are ok in that aspect because adex will help you look better and lessen bloat, it can also let E2 levels climb. So if you dont get labs drawn, you wont know where you stand and it could be detremental to your health. Thats what I spent my time posting about. And Swifto,JimmyInkedUp and Marcus are 3 guys I trust more than my circle of user friends. They are old farts who have been in this for years. My circle of friend think an AI and DHEA are the best PCT, but I know better just from this site, which has backed up and proven results. But like I said, I am more concerned for your heart than your PCT.

[DigitalGorilla]

It's not about clomid, it's about your way of thinking and that you are not able to look at it objectively and realize that you may be doing more damage to your health than good. Get some bloodwork done, the numbers won't lie.

Cycling is like playing russian roulette and people do not want to admit it. One day you will shoot your system and you will be hypogonadal. Dick won't work, and TRT for life with a small chance to produce children. Take a look at most of the Vets here, you don't play in this game for long without being on TRT or blasting and cruising. But still all these kids that want to get buff come on here and the obese people that want a crutch to lose some weight don't understand the magnitude of the decision they are making. This is you, you are playing russian roulette and since you have no clue what you are doing you think it's gonna all work well for you. If you are willing to sacrifice your HPTA to achieve your goals I say fvck it go for it!

I don't know where you think that PCT is an opinion. It's not really debatable or anybody's opinion. It is a scientifically proven protocol to restore the HPTA. Your frivolous thinking that these are "opinions" and that you think that hCG suppresses the Pit is an opinion I have and that our views differ?

The hGH dosing is an opinion and you are using it for too short of a time and at too high of a dose when you are not familiar with the compound. 5IU could have your hands feeling like bricks but you don't know and you think that is an opinion. What is your dosing schedule for fat burning with the hGH?

BF of 18% is more of a health risk than chronic opiate use LOL Do you think it is my opinion that obesity related causes of death are the biggest problem next to cancer? Do you think it is my opinion that losing weight too fast is a health risk? Do you think it is my opinion that pushing 8iu hGH 60mg Anavar and 500mg Testosterone may pose a health risk to an already beaten system? Do you think it is my opinion that the healthiest course of action would be to change your lifestyle fix a healthy diet and maintain a good exercise routine? Get bloodwork, control your estrogen and lose it the healthy way. I understand you have made buddies here with 500+ posts but understand that if you would create a new account and post your stats and the proposed cycle you want to do; everybody would be telling you the same thing I am telling you.

Skip the drugs, learn to exercise and eat healthy and you will achieve your goals

There may be no fixing it when it's broken HAHAHA this is what you aren't understanding. <- Not an opinion

And how would change my diet and lifestyle to make it better? Lets hear this......

[DigitalGorilla]

Clomid is recommended, not set in stone by some. Nolvadex pretty much is. Drinking a ton of water should cause bloat, but should help from getting it. Foods cause bloat for me. But I was more less talking about adex and lipids. That is dangerous and I was only recommending you get BW done after to make sure you are ok in that aspect because adex will help you look better and lessen bloat, it can also let E2 levels climb. So if you dont get labs drawn, you wont know where you stand and it could be detremental to your health. Thats what I spent my time posting about. And Swifto,JimmyInkedUp and Marcus are 2 guys I trust more than my circle of user friends. They are old farts who have been in this for years. My circle of friend think an AI and DHEA are the best PCT, but I know better just from this site, which has backed up and proven results. But like I said, I am more concerned for your heart than your PCT.

Thanks for concern - but As ive said -- so far all bloodwork is fine. That could change but so far it hasnt... And --- i will tell you this. It was 2 mods on here that suggested i take the Armidex. So should I belive the people on this site or my friends? lol they all say take Armidex.

[DigitalGorilla]

I will also say this. 3 years ago ....I was in horrible shape and health inside and out -- and now - my Dr tells me I am 35 going on 25 --- I dont even have high cholesterol, blood pressure...nothing .....

[DigitalGorilla]

Clomid is recommended, not set in stone by some. Nolvadex pretty much is. Drinking a ton of water should not cause bloat, but should help from getting it. Foods cause bloat for me. But I was more less talking about adex and lipids. That is dangerous and I was only recommending you get BW done after to make sure you are ok in that aspect because adex will help you look better and lessen bloat, it can also let E2 levels climb. So if you dont get labs drawn, you wont know where you stand and it could be detremental to your health. Thats what I spent my time posting about. And Swifto,JimmyInkedUp and Marcus are 3 guys I trust more than my circle of user friends. They are old farts who have been in this for years. My circle of friend think an AI and DHEA are the best PCT, but I know better just from this site, which has backed up and proven results. But like I said, I am more concerned for your heart than your PCT.

WARMOUTH -- I do appreciate the concern tho for real. But as for others on here ---- nothing is worse than someone who will not listen and just keeps saying what they believe to be correct. I dont try to change peoples mind on my PCT and people shouldnt try to change mine. Ive come a long way - from research and learning the hard way ..... and I know what works for me. Ive been off cycle since Aug - and my bw was spot on last week. Thats quick in my opinion. So for me --- im in my comfort zone. I dont like the clomid sides.....and I do like the results of the Armidex.....thats all i can say on the subject. But thanks for everyone who had some imput ---

[Sworder]

I don't have to know anything about you. It's not very subjective as you think it is. What I need to know is stats and the cycle proposed. That's it and that tells me everything I need to know about you, I don't need to know about your runs with the dog or what your favorite movie is.

Your diet and training is the most important. You are very confused and in the dark about the drugs but let me tell you a secret. You are using the wrong drugs, AAS are best used to build muscle or maintain a BB muscle mass when cutting. For the metabolic aspect you have start running high amount of androgens to get an increased effect. Drugs like Anavar and 500mg Testosterone won't alter your metabolism as much as T3/T4(thyroid hormones, used to increase your metabolism........) If you want a good fat burning effect you will have to look at trenbolone , it is a stronger androgen and will give you that effect.

I didn't say you lost weight too fast now did I? I am always careful on how I word things. Honestly it's tiresome to waste my time since you seem to see straight through anything logical or factual.

How to change your diet and lifestyle?

I am very aware of your eating habits as I know that you have to stuff your mouth with a lot of food to maintain that BF%. Sorry if I don't listen to all you have to say but your stats already tell the story and you said you gained weight on vacation??? How do you gain weight lol? Eating to satisfy your mouth rather than using your diet to nourish your body. That needs to change. FYI, at your bodyfat you don't even need to exercise. Just changing your diet will have the fat melting because your body does not want it..

About the arimidex , ask Warmouth for a source on where it shows that arimidex causes bad lipid profiles(This solves the issue on who to trust because you will be trusting science). It is low estrogen that causes it, I have yet to see correlation to the arimidex and bad lipid profiles when estrogen is in range. Clomid has been used for a long time, it's a lot of bullshit and exaggeration about vision problems. Some do get it but at 25mg you shouldn't, it's floaters that people complain about mainly. There is so much hype and bullsh1t out you just need to find out by yourself.

You are like a wall, there is no talking to you about anything. You just tunnel-vision past anything I say.

[DigitalGorilla]

It's not about clomid, it's about your way of thinking and that you are not able to look at it objectively and realize that you may be doing more damage to your health than good. Get some bloodwork done, the numbers won't lie.

Cycling is like playing russian roulette and people do not want to admit it. One day you will shoot your system and you will be hypogonadal. Dick won't work, and TRT for life with a small chance to produce children. Take a look at most of the Vets here, you don't play in this game for long without being on TRT or blasting and cruising. But still all these kids that want to get buff come on here and the obese people that want a crutch to lose some weight don't understand the magnitude of the decision they are making. This is you, you are playing russian roulette and since you have no clue what you are doing you think it's gonna all work well for you. If you are willing to sacrifice your HPTA to achieve your goals I say fvck it go for it!

I don't know where you think that PCT is an opinion. It's not really debatable or anybody's opinion. It is a scientifically proven protocol to restore the HPTA. Your frivolous thinking that these are "opinions" and that you think that hCG suppresses the Pit is an opinion I have and that our views differ?

The hGH dosing is an opinion and you are using it for too short of a time and at too high of a dose when you are not familiar with the compound. 5IU could have your hands feeling like bricks but you don't know and you think that is an opinion. What is your dosing schedule for fat burning with the hGH?

BF of 18% is more of a health risk than chronic opiate use LOL Do you think it is my opinion that obesity related causes of death are the biggest problem next to cancer? Do you think it is my opinion that losing weight too fast is a health risk? Do you think it is my opinion that pushing 8iu hGH 60mg Anavar and 500mg Testosterone may pose a health risk to an already beaten system? Do you think it is my opinion that the healthiest course of action would be to change your lifestyle fix a healthy diet and maintain a good exercise routine? Get bloodwork, control your estrogen and lose it the healthy way. I understand you have made buddies here with 500+ posts but understand that if you would create a new account and post your stats and the proposed cycle you want to do; everybody would be telling you the same thing I am telling you.

Skip the drugs, learn to exercise and eat healthy and you will achieve your goals

There may be no fixing it when it's broken HAHAHA this is what you aren't understanding. <- Not an opinion

I really cant stand people that think they know it all........when you cant even read right

[Sworder]

I have never stated that I know everything. I can direct you to what my statements are based on if you think it's bullsh1t.

[DigitalGorilla]

I don't have to know anything about you. It's not very subjective as you think it is. What I need to know is stats and the cycle proposed. That's it and that tells me everything I need to know about you, I don't need to know about your runs with the dog or what your favorite movie is.

Your diet and training is the most important. You are very confused and in the dark about the drugs but let me tell you a secret. You are using the wrong drugs, AAS are best used to build muscle or maintain a BB muscle mass when cutting. For the metabolic aspect you have start running high amount of androgens to get an increased effect. Drugs like Anavar and 500mg Testosterone won't alter your metabolism as much as T3/T4(thyroid hormones, used to increase your metabolism........) If you want a good fat burning effect you will have to look at trenbolone , it is a stronger androgen and will give you that effect.

I didn't say you lost weight too fast now did I? I am always careful on how I word things. Honestly it's tiresome to waste my time since you seem to see straight through anything logical or factual.

How to change your diet and lifestyle?

I am very aware of your eating habits as I know that you have to stuff your mouth with a lot of food to maintain that BF%. Sorry if I don't listen to all you have to say but your stats already tell the story and you said you gained weight on vacation??? How do you gain weight lol? Eating to satisfy your mouth rather than using your diet to nourish your body. That needs to change. FYI, at your bodyfat you don't even need to exercise. Just changing your diet will have the fat melting because your body does not want it..

About the arimidex , ask Warmouth for a source on where it shows that arimidex causes bad lipid profiles(This solves the issue on who to trust because you will be trusting science). It is low estrogen that causes it, I have yet to see correlation to the arimidex and bad lipid profiles when estrogen is in range. Clomid has been used for a long time, it's a lot of bullshit and exaggeration about vision problems. Some do get it but at 25mg you shouldn't, it's floaters that people complain about mainly. There is so much hype and bullsh1t out you just need to find out by yourself.

You are like a wall, there is no talking to you about anything. You just tunnel-vision past anything I say.

WRONG. Ill start with one thing - diet - I eat 1900 or less calories every day - never going over 2000 --- and I eat no unhealthy fats. Or fast food or anything....so on that point alone - you dont know shit....anyone on here can tell you about my diet ......ive had pros tell me its as good as it gets;.

My diet is posted ina few posts on here -

[Sworder]

WRONG. Ill start with one thing - diet - I eat 1900 or less calories every day - never going over 2000 --- and I eat no unhealthy fats. Or fast food or anything....so on that point alone - you dont know shit....anyone on here can tell you about my diet ......ive had pros tell me its as good as it gets;.

Take a look at your bloodwork, what is your e2? What AI are you taking to keep your e2 down so you aren't suppressing natural testosterone ?

I have heard about the "I only eat 1900 calories/day" before so many times; check your thyroid hormones and test/estrogen. If they are normal you are full of sh1t unless you have some cellular metabolic issues which I highly doubt lol

[DigitalGorilla]

I just read your profile.....now I understand it all - your just a kid. my bad. you have no idea how an adult body works.......thats not your fault tho - your just wet behind the ears

[DigitalGorilla]

Take a look at your bloodwork, what is your e2? What AI are you taking to keep your e2 down so you aren't suppressing natural testosterone ?

I have heard about the "I only eat 1900 calories/day" before so many times; check your thyroid hormones and test/estrogen. If they are normal you are full of sh1t unless you have some cellular metabolic issues which I highly doubt lol

Armidex is an AI

[Sworder]

Armidex is an AI

How much are you using off cycle? How much is your e2 off cycle? tT off cycle?

You have no idea what I am talking about even lol I can tell. I am done. Good luck in life buddy.

[DigitalGorilla]

And again...Ill gladly take a picture of the lab results and post it so theres no question..... as of friday I am on point. Altho of course at 35 I have normally low test....however at this point its higher than it was before I started.....again tho - Im done with this convo. To each his own...have a good night

[DigitalGorilla]

[QUOTE=Sworder;6204878]How much are you using off cycle? How much is your e2 off cycle? tT off cycle?

You have no idea what I am talking about even lol I can tell. I am done. Good luck in life buddy.[/QUOT

You too.