How do I know if it's gyno or water retention?

[Live for the PUMP]

After reading some other threads I'm starting to think I might just have water retention and not gyno. When I flex my nipples are pointy. Almost like a flat pointy. Anyways I don't have any lumps, they are not sensitive, they don't itch, hurt, or anything else out of the norm. Is this just water retention? I am taking .5mg Arimidex ED and 20mg Tamox ED. I would like to get off the Tamox if Its not gyno, so please give me your thoughts.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Hard to tell. What is your BF%? Are you lactating or have any discharge at all?

What are you going through PCT or on cycle, if so, what are you on?

[Live for the PUMP]

Hard to tell. What is your BF%? Are you lactating or have any discharge at all?

What are you going through PCT or on cycle, if so, what are you on?

My BF is probably 11-12%. I am not lactating or discharging. I am on 5th week of 12 week cycle. 500mg Test E weekly and 250iu HCG twice weekly. .5 arimidex ED and 20mg Tamox ED.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I wouldn't worry to much about it unless it starts causing you pain. It's hard to tell off speculation to, a pic would help. How positive are you about your BF%? Did you ever have high BF% in your past?

[MickeyKnox]

stop playing with your nipples! lol

its so true though, i have guys ask me, 'do i have gyno?' while they're playing with them!? i'll tell you the same thing, stop playing with them. im no doctor but, if youre not experiencing any of the classic symptoms, you likely do not have gyno. honestly bro, i think youre worrying for nothing.

relax and concentrate on your diet and training.

[Live for the PUMP]

Ya they haven't caused me any pain. I'm trying to get some pics now. It's weird because it is like a flat pointy. There is a crease above and below my nipple that makes it look flat.. I've never been that high of BF. Maybe 18-22 at very worst and that was 10 years ago. Here are some pics. If you look close you will see the flat pointy shape I am talking about.

[austinite]

that just looks like fat.

[MickeyKnox]

doesn't appear to be gyno to me.

11% bf?

[Live for the PUMP]

stop playing with your nipples! lol

its so true though, i have guys ask me, 'do i have gyno?' while they're playing with them!? i'll tell you the same thing, stop playing with them. im no doctor but, if youre not experiencing any of the classic symptoms, you likely do not have gyno. honestly bro, i think youre worrying for nothing.

relax and concentrate on your diet and training.

I hope so. So should I drop the Tamox and move on?

[Live for the PUMP]

that just looks like fat.

Never thought I would be happy to hear that.

[DanB]

yup its fat and hard to give a good guesstimation but far higher then 12%

[MickeyKnox]

I hope so. So should I drop the Tamox and move on?

i would. and i'd switch the dex up to eod and monitor.

[Live for the PUMP]

doesn't appear to be gyno to me.

11% bf?

I know up close it looks like I am a lard ass huh. Here is a recent pic of me backed up another foot. 11-12% about right, or no?

[MickeyKnox]

youre not 11 bro. maybe 14. you look good though.

[austinite]

I know up close it looks like I am a lard ass huh. Here is a recent pic of me backed up another foot. 11-12% about right, or no?

no But you're getting there. Keep up the good work.

[Live for the PUMP]

Ha ok. Way to keep me honest fellows. Damn I thought I was 11-12. Oh well the plan is too get big right now anyways.

[MickeyKnox]

Ha ok. Way to keep me honest fellows. Damn I thought I was 11-12. Oh well the plan is too get big right now anyways.

..and youre well on your way. keep it up!

[Juced_porkchop]

stop playing with your nipples! lol

its so true though, i have guys ask me, 'do i have gyno?' while they're playing with them!? i'll tell you the same thing, stop playing with them. im no doctor but, if youre not experiencing any of the classic symptoms, you likely do not have gyno. honestly bro, i think youre worrying for nothing.

relax and concentrate on your diet and training.

also playing with them may make it worse, stimulation IS possible man. try to leav them. even if you have gyno comming or not, are you not using an AI?
i rec stane 12.5mg ed-eod.

[Live for the PUMP]

..and youre well on your way. keep it up!

Ty Brotha!

[Live for the PUMP]

also playing with them may make it worse, stimulation IS possible man. try to leav them. even if you have gyno comming or not, are you not using an AI?
i rec stane 12.5mg ed-eod.

Ya Mickey was just joshing. I don't actually play with my nipples, lmao. AI is A-dex at .5mg ED in which I will cut to EOD now that I know its fat and not estrogen.

[kelkel]

Some people just have sensitive nips. I do and my e runs steady at around 16. Some people are just that way. Definitely drop your adex to eod as stated. Also if you can, split your T injection in half and go twice a week.

kel

[Live for the PUMP]

Some people just have sensitive nips. I do and my e runs steady at around 16. Some people are just that way. Definitely drop your adex to eod as stated. Also if you can, split your T injection in half and go twice a week.

kel

Yes I do inject at twice a week 250mg a pop. Ya I will drop ADEX to EOD. Good thing I asked because I was getting ready to bump ADEX to 1mg ED. Thanks Kel.

[Live for the PUMP]

I took 27 pills of Tamox at 20mg a pill over the last couple weeks. I hope this didn't affect anything negatively...

[kelkel]

You probably would have crashed your E, which is not fun. The tamox may knock your IGF1 level down a bit but you'll be fine.

[Sworder]

[cro]

looks like bf to me .but i would keep a close eye on it.

[Bonaparte]

No lump = no gyno.
It really isn't tough to tell when you have it.

[cro]

i thought there was 3 kinds of gyno ?

No lump = no gyno.
It really isn't tough to tell when you have it.

[Bonaparte]

i thought there was 3 kinds of gyno ?

There can be different hormonal causes, but they all manifest the same. If there's no pinchable lump (and you aren't a fat ass), it isn't gyno (yet).