My boy has bad "fat face" from starting a cycle

**juice work** · 10-09-2012, 07:14 AM

i just got my buddy started on .5 ml 2x week of test 400 and he has put on some noticable size in 4 weeks already but i saw his face and you can just see it, all round and bloated. He is not on any AI i told him he needed on but he said he was good bc there is one in the natty test booster he was using, but clearly not enough. What should he take to fix his fish face?

**lovbyts** · 10-09-2012, 07:46 AM

Moon face? That's what I have heard it called. Natty test boosters are not going to do any good since he is on cycle. Sounds like a lot of water weight/bloat probably due to poor diet, to much salt, not enough water.

**juice work** · 10-09-2012, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Moon face? That's what I have heard it called. Natty test boosters are not going to do any good since he is on cycle. Sounds like a lot of water weight/bloat probably due to poor diet, to much salt, not enough water.

yea i guess you could call it that haha he is totally bloating up though would nolva help?

**Brohim** · 10-09-2012, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by juice work

yea i guess you could call it that haha he is totally bloating up though would nolva help?

you need Armidex or Aromasin not Nolva. .5mg everyday of Armidex until the bloating goes down then .5mg Every other day. Your boy just let his estrogen get out of control. Estrogen is more supressive than test. Not only did he mess himself up for recovering but he also could lose his libido and probably has high blood pressure not to mention the cosmetic effect's as you mention.

**juice work** · 10-09-2012, 09:59 AM

which do you prefer between the two?

**fit2bOld** · 10-09-2012, 10:06 AM

Didn't we talk about AI and side effects with you before. I sure there was a conversation about acne/gyno and the importance of running an AI on cycle.
But you blew it off and now your buddy has a bloated face. Im sure his whole body is bloated due to estrogen and poor diet.

Get him on the Arimidex like Brohim said.

You were told this and didn't listen your boys problem is your problem...... Some friend!!!

**juice work** · 10-09-2012, 10:09 AM

not my job for him to do his homework dude im still on the same track i was before and im not asking about myself i enjoy everything i have going on he shoots gay porn and i think he needs his face swelling to go down to keep getting gigs
dont disrespect me again i dont do it to others and i damn sure dont appreciate it

**fit2bOld** · 10-09-2012, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by juice work

not my job for him to do his homework dude im still on the same track i was before and im not asking about myself i enjoy everything i have going on he shoots gay porn and i think he needs his face swelling to go down to keep getting gigs
dont disrespect me again i dont do it to others and i damn sure dont appreciate it

That's the problem you didn't give a shit about your buddy. This is not disrespect it is a fact that you didn't have his back. We've been here helping you out? Right!!

**marcus300** · 10-09-2012, 10:21 AM

He needs an AI which will help to reduce the bloat, arimidex or aromasin will do fine.

**juice work** · 10-09-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

That's the problem you didn't give a shit about your buddy. This is not disrespect it is a fact that you didn't have his back. We've been here helping you out? Right!!

he said he did his homework and knew what he was getting into, you think i tell every person what to do step by step? not my responsibility they dont do more homework or take more steps on their own he asked for some gear he got it 1 t400 he read up read forums said he didnt want anything and would run pct on his own and honestly i dont give a shit, i was just dropping by since im ordering all my shit for my self i figured id be nice and grab him some shit to help with his bloat ill get some Arimidex for him off my source
I get on the forums daily and read, not my job to put him in front of the computer nor is it my job to put his ass in the gym

**juice work** · 10-09-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

He needs an AI which will help to reduce the bloat, arimidex or aromasin will do fine.

Thanks, will there be any sides or medicine feelings or sides i should tell him about from arimidex ?

**fit2bOld** · 10-09-2012, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by juice work

i just got my buddy started on .5 ml 2x week of test 400

Originally Posted by juice work

and he has put on some noticable size in 4 weeks already but i saw his face and you can just see it, all round and bloated. He is not on any AI i told him he needed on but he said he was good bc there is one in the natty test booster he was using, but clearly not enough. What should he take to fix his fish face?

This is what you said, makes you the responsible party.

**juice work** · 10-09-2012, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

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This is what you said, makes you the responsible party.

Focus on that part that says "He is not on any AI i told him he needed on but he said he was good bc there is one in the natty test booster he was using"

**lovbyts** · 10-09-2012, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by juice work

Focus on that part that says "He is not on any AI i told him he needed on but he said he was good bc there is one in the natty test booster he was using"

Then dont worry about it and move on. Let him learn on his own. Like they say, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. It just seemed like you had asked what to do before and got the AI information but sounded like you forgot what you were already told and didnt let your friend know ahead of time. If you have told him now and he says dont worry then dont worry.

**warmouth** · 10-10-2012, 12:23 AM

I would have told your buddy not to use T400 anyways. Too many esters and toomuch going on there. I would have given him the advice you learned and told him to get a single estered test, but thats me. I just gave my friend a bottle of liquidex, Cia, and tamox since he started a test C cycle for his first go 'round.

**marcus300** · 10-10-2012, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Then dont worry about it and move on. Let him learn on his own. Like they say, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. It just seemed like you had asked what to do before and got the AI information but sounded like you forgot what you were already told and didnt let your friend know ahead of time. If you have told him now and he says dont worry then dont worry.

I'd agree

**juice work** · 10-10-2012, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Then dont worry about it and move on. Let him learn on his own. Like they say, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. It just seemed like you had asked what to do before and got the AI information but sounded like you forgot what you were already told and didnt let your friend know ahead of time. If you have told him now and he says dont worry then dont worry.

haha done no worries ive tried but he thnks he knows best so fat face he will stay

**juice work** · 10-10-2012, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by warmouth

I would have told your buddy not to use T400 anyways. Too many esters and toomuch going on there. I would have given him the advice you learned and told him to get a single estered test, but thats me. I just gave my friend a bottle of liquidex, Cia, and tamox since he started a test C cycle for his first go 'round.

i quite like the t400 im also a big fan of sustanon 350 why dont you like multi esters?

**xalos21** · 10-10-2012, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

He needs an AI which will help to reduce the bloat, arimidex or aromasin will do fine.

Damn really feel lucky. Some time u don't understand the side effect or consequences until you read about them. Sure thanking a friend that recommended this forum to me before I start my fist cycle.

**xalos21** · 10-10-2012, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

He needs an AI which will help to reduce the bloat, arimidex or aromasin will do fine.

Damn really feel lucky. Some time u don't understand the side effect or consequences until you read about them. Sure thanking a friend that recommended this forum to me before I start my fist cycle.